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Norman turned down 1.7 and fought someone else for 150k. Stop conflating the timeline and pretending a different fight is the same thing. He also made 400k against sasaki not more than 1.7 million, Unless the fight did huge on ppv which seems doubtful but I'll wait on that info.

If Hearn...

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Ward was not legit. We need to stop pretending his wrestling was boxing. We have it on tape....

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He was a ww for 5 years when he fought spence...

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The man who tried to take the wind out of wilders sails by poisoning him?...

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He beat 4 top 5 opponents in those 2 years. He fought some mediocre opponents but he stayed busy fighting 10 times. Pretty funny how that's seen as fighting bums compared to this era......

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Now that wikderhas surgery to repair his arm and brain he looks unbeatable again

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That's what everyone said during his career, then it happened, now people are making excuses pretending he was a top guy when his image was based on fantasy fights and what he could do, but then we found out he couldn't do it......

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He was never granted 50 million. You are simply repeating wilder team rhetoric. He literally sent joshua an email saying let's fight for 50 million. Joshua said send the contract and he didn't which proves he was bluffing. No other way to see it. No contract no fight. If he had been granted a 50 million...

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Isn't that just narcissism? I mean it's not true. We know it's not true. The stats tell us its not true. I only have to hit my opponent once and I win...personality disorders at work.

we have all seen these people throughout our lives. Sometimes they are propped up with massive wealth(musk,...

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Yes but isn't that a testament to his marketing? I mean tesla makes lots of money and is popular but makes shi-t cars and has shi-t fsd compared to others. We should at least try to make the Hall of Fame better if possible and he's not close....

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Wow this is top notch stuff...

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All those seem subjective no? He has a 25% ko ratio agaisnt top 10 opponents so that doesn't scream elite power. to me. Timing and focus? He seemed to struggle timing good fighters. Ngannou has elite timing too? Don't think so. Focus? What is he focused on? Getting outboxed and focusing on the ko so...

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Yes to speak highly of Fury and how he got up to win, not so much wilder. He will be what you call a footnote. Basically Michael grant although grant probably has a better resume in reality. Grant took a shot against an elite and got steamrolled then fell off while wilder waited waited waited for his...

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Joshua has been trying to fight wilder for so long it's rather hilarious. Offered him 12 million when his career high was 2. Wilder said no. Offered him 100 million. Widler said no he wanted to he loyal.

To wilders credit he then agreed to finally fight joshua and cash out but turki said...

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Ruiz Jr is better than ortiz and wilder. The way you view him is the way we view guys like wilder and ortiz. they were the dud fighters who stayed on the weak side of the bracket(willingly) the real deal guys like Parker, Joshua, Whyte, Ruiz etc...all fought each other. Wilder tried to go to that side...

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Let's not forget in the first ortiz fight wilder was given an extra long rest when he was out to "make sure he was ok" blatant protection in order to give him the optimal chance to come back and win which credit to him he did but that was a microcosm of his career and how he was protected...