Fury vs Usyk - Historic Impact??

[Willow The Wisp]

50 years History of International Heavyweights - Adjustments after April 29.

Assuming an emphatic, decisive Victory.....
(Obviously, any active fighter can rise and fall)

Should Oleksandr Usyk Win:

1. Muhammad Ali
2. George Foreman
3. Lennox Lewis
4. Larry Holmes
5. Mike Tyson
6. Wladimir Klitschko
7. Joe Frazier
8. Oleksandr Usyk
9. Tyson Fury
10.Evander Holyfield
11.Deontay Wilder
12.Vitali Klitschko
13.Anthony Joshua
14.Ken Norton
15.Rid**** Bowe
16.Jerry Quarry
17.Jimmy Young
18.Ron Lyle
19.Earnie Shavers
20.Tim Witherspoon



Should Tyson Fury Win:

1. Muhammad Ali
2. George Foreman
3. Lennox Lewis
4. Larry Holmes
5. Tyson Fury
6. Mike Tyson
7. Wladimir Klitschko
8. Joe Frazier
9. Deontay Wilder
10.Evander Holyfield
11.Vitali Klitschko
12.Anthony Joshua
13.Ken Norton
14.Rid**** Bowe
15.Jerry Quarry
16.Jimmy Young
17.Ron Lyle
18.Earnie Shavers
19.Oleksandr Usyk
20.Tim Witherspoon

[Ivich]

50 years History of International Heavyweights - Adjustments after April 29.

Assuming an emphatic, decisive Victory.....
(Obviously, any active fighter can rise and fall)

Should Oleksandr Usyk Win:

1. Muhammad Ali
2. George Foreman
3. Lennox Lewis
4. Larry Holmes
5. Mike Tyson
6. Wladimir Klitschko
7. Joe Frazier
8. Oleksandr Usyk
9. Tyson Fury
10.Evander Holyfield
11.Deontay Wilder
12.Vitali Klitschko
13.Anthony Joshua
14.Ken Norton
15.Rid**** Bowe
16.Jerry Quarry
17.Jimmy Young
18.Ron Lyle
19.Earnie Shavers
20.Tim Witherspoon



Should Tyson Fury Win:

1. Muhammad Ali
2. George Foreman
3. Lennox Lewis
4. Larry Holmes
5. Tyson Fury
6. Mike Tyson
7. Wladimir Klitschko
8. Joe Frazier
9. Deontay Wilder
10.Evander Holyfield
11.Vitali Klitschko
12.Anthony Joshua
13.Ken Norton
14.Rid**** Bowe
15.Jerry Quarry
16.Jimmy Young
17.Ron Lyle
18.Earnie Shavers
19.Oleksandr Usyk
20.Tim Witherspoon

Fury is getting a lot of adverse press here in the UK over his demand for a 70.30 split. Usyk has agreed to that percentage ,and with the fight being held in the UK with just one stipulation,that Fury donates one million pounds to the homeless in Ukraine

[QueensburyRules]

50 years History of International Heavyweights - Adjustments after April 29.

Assuming an emphatic, decisive Victory.....
(Obviously, any active fighter can rise and fall)

Should Oleksandr Usyk Win:

1. Muhammad Ali
2. George Foreman
3. Lennox Lewis
4. Larry Holmes
5. Mike Tyson
6. Wladimir Klitschko
7. Joe Frazier
8. Oleksandr Usyk
9. Tyson Fury
10.Evander Holyfield
11.Deontay Wilder
12.Vitali Klitschko
13.Anthony Joshua
14.Ken Norton
15.Rid**** Bowe
16.Jerry Quarry
17.Jimmy Young
18.Ron Lyle
19.Earnie Shavers
20.Tim Witherspoon

Should Tyson Fury Win:

1. Muhammad Ali
2. George Foreman
3. Lennox Lewis
4. Larry Holmes
5. Tyson Fury
6. Mike Tyson
7. Wladimir Klitschko
8. Joe Frazier
9. Deontay Wilder
10.Evander Holyfield
11.Vitali Klitschko
12.Anthony Joshua
13.Ken Norton
14.Rid**** Bowe
15.Jerry Quarry
16.Jimmy Young
17.Ron Lyle
18.Earnie Shavers
19.Oleksandr Usyk
20.Tim Witherspoon

- - If, and only IF they fight, it sure ain't gonna be April 29.

Usyk could make more defending in Saudi Arabia against a mandatory, or doing a Wlad in house Exhibition with a guarantee that Blubber cannot provide as he is clearly unraveling before our very eyes.

When you gonna outgrow limited lineal 2 dimensional sledding dog thinking in a multi dimensional world?

[Slugfester]

One advantage of fighting from a hilltop is your opponent has to do all the climbing.

Does your ranking represent a heads up match, or overall accomplishment?

[GhostofDempsey]

I can't see ranking Wilder so high. Bowe should be in his place on those lists at a minimum. Lyle and Witherspoon? I'd put Byrd or Tua in their place, along with Cooney, Dokes, Mercer, and a few others.

[Marchegiano]

If Usyk beats Fury he'll have put together a far better resume than Fury as well. Fury+Joshua = > Wilder+Wlad

[crimsonfalcon07]

I would like to see more explanation of the rankings. If Usyk wins, he'll be the first man, and the second boxer overall, to win undisputed in two divisions in the four belt era. He'd join notables like Henry Armstrong, Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson, Evander Holyfield etc, as a multiple time undisputed champion. Being the first undisputed double champ and first undisputed heavyweight champion in the four belt era would certainly etch his name into the history books. And he's won every belt on the road. Win or lose, Usyk is the greatest road warrior in modern boxing, and we need more great champions like him, who fight only for their country and their legacy, never duck a fight for money or B- side negotiation business.

[Willow The Wisp]

- - If, and only IF they fight, it sure ain't gonna be April 29.

Usyk could make more defending in Saudi Arabia against a mandatory, or doing a Wlad in house Exhibition with a guarantee that Blubber cannot provide as he is clearly unraveling before our very eyes.

When you gonna outgrow limited lineal 2 dimensional sledding dog thinking in a multi dimensional world?

Lol. I always look forward to your perspective and prose.

[Willow The Wisp]

I can't see ranking Wilder so high. Bowe should be in his place on those lists at a minimum. Lyle and Witherspoon? I'd put Byrd or Tua in their place, along with Cooney, Dokes, Mercer, and a few others.

Everybody's got one.

[Willow The Wisp]

If Usyk beats Fury he'll have put together a far better resume than Fury as well. Fury+Joshua = > Wilder+Wlad

That's a fine line there, but certainly, if Usyk were to beat Fury decisively, many observers, myself included, will be looking at him very, very differently.