Is Spinks p4p one of the greatest contemporary fighters of all time

[them_apples]

If we look closely at what he did, he’s an all time great.

being so much smaller than Cooney but dominating him in such fashion, then the 2 victories of Holmes. it’s easy to see Spinks was probably ducked by Many. He would have beat Holyfield, likely Moorer - and has a good chance of UDing George.

we can look at the Tyson fight, but he was already set to retire and hadnt fought in a year - and I just have a sneaking su****ion than king WaNTED him to lay down for Tyson, setting the stage for the next era. Even in the event that Tyson has his number, it could be a style thing as well.

[DeeMoney]

I don't think he's in the top 5 P4P over the past 50 years, maybe in the 5-10 range during that time. I would have to take time to think if he's in the top 10 during that time period, but he probably is.

I guess it comes down to where you draw the line for 'one of the greatest'.

[Slugfester]

If we look closely at what he did, he�s an all time great.

being so much smaller than Cooney but dominating him in such fashion, then the 2 victories of Holmes. it�s easy to see Spinks was probably ducked by Many. He would have beat Holyfield, likely Moorer - and has a good chance of UDing George.

we can look at the Tyson fight, but he was already set to retire and hadnt fought in a year - and I just have a sneaking su****ion than king WaNTED him to lay down for Tyson, setting the stage for the next era. Even in the event that Tyson has his number, it could be a style thing as well.

Christ, you are full of bullshit with such offhand statements as "He would have beat(en) Holyfield and Moorer." As if you know. And you're a fucking better joke by including Foreman. Spinks is a great fighter for what he did to light heavies not shot heavyweights.

[kara]

Christ, you are full of bullshit with such offhand statements as "He would have beat(en) Holyfield and Moorer." As if you know. And you're a fucking better joke by including Foreman. Spinks is a great fighter for what he did to light heavies not shot heavyweights.

Moorer showed what happens when a great cruiserweight, like Jirov, moves up. And that was a shot Moorer. He would have unloaded on Spinks.

[IronDanHamza]

Moorer showed what happens when a great cruiserweight, like Jirov, moves up. And that was a shot Moorer. He would have unloaded on Spinks.

Jirov a great Crusierweight? Based on what?

You can’t compare Micheal Spinks to the likes of Jirov.

[kara]

Jirov a great Crusierweight? Based on what?

You can’t compare Micheal Spinks to the likes of Jirov.

I'm comparing someone who was physically fierce at his weight and gets blown away once he moves up. Spinks on another level to Jirov, but a naturally smaller man. There is a reason Roy Jones took his one win and ran back down to 175.

[IronDanHamza]

I'm comparing someone who was physically fierce at his weight and gets blown away once he moves up. Spinks on another level to Jirov, but a naturally smaller man. There is a reason Roy Jones took his one win and ran back down to 175.

I understand your point but it’s not a good comparison but Jirov is an average fighter.

On the flip side to that you have an example like Holyfield, an actual great Crusierweight, he moved up and became one of the all time great Heavyweights.

You’ve even got an example of a decent Crusierweight, David Haye who moved up and had decent success.

[them_apples]

Christ, you are full of bullshit with such offhand statements as "He would have beat(en) Holyfield and Moorer." As if you know. And you're a fucking better joke by including Foreman. Spinks is a great fighter for what he did to light heavies not shot heavyweights.

spinks for sure could have grabbed a UD off 90s Foreman. Moore almost did and he stood in front of him all night. George was slow in the 90s and Spinks was slick and fast. Look what he did to cooney. Have you no concept of boxing styles whatsoever?

I’d bet my house Spinks washes Holyfield too, esp the musclebound one.

Moorer would be a tough one, a pick em.

[Dr. Z]

If we look closely at what he did, he�s an all time great.

being so much smaller than Cooney but dominating him in such fashion, then the 2 victories of Holmes. it�s easy to see Spinks was probably ducked by Many. He would have beat Holyfield, likely Moorer - and has a good chance of UDing George.

we can look at the Tyson fight, but he was already set to retire and hadnt fought in a year - and I just have a sneaking su****ion than king WaNTED him to lay down for Tyson, setting the stage for the next era. Even in the event that Tyson has his number, it could be a style thing as well.

Spinks was a great taller light heavyweight who took advantage of an older Larry Holmes, who he should have lost to once and washed up Cooney. He cashed out of boxing in 91 seconds vs Mike Tyson.

He was a good fighter though and like you said could have beaten the BALCO / PED feed Holyfield. Don't look now but a former light heavyweight champion did exactly that.

[Slugfester]

spinks for sure could have grabbed a UD off 90s Foreman. Moore almost did and he stood in front of him all night. George was slow in the 90s and Spinks was slick and fast. Look what he did to cooney. Have you no concept of boxing styles whatsoever?

I�d bet my house Spinks washes Holyfield too, esp the musclebound one.

Moorer would be a tough one, a pick em.

Why didn't you say it was those other fighters at their worst and Spinks at his best? Hell, I bet he beats the version of Tyson that lost to Lewis as well. That doesn't mean anything. At their best I see them all beating him, with the possible exception of Moorer.

No offense or disrespect to Spinks who is probably the best LH ever.

I see these HW champs beating Spinks in their primes. Wait, the other list is shorter. He would probably beat:

Sullivan
Burns
Hart
Willard
Sharkey
Braddock
Schmeling
Carnera
V Klit
W Klit
Joshua
Patterson
Johansson
Ellis
Leon Spinks
Tate
Tubbs
Berbick
Smith
Ruiz
Daniani
Bentt
Hide
Bruno
Akinwande
Rahman
Jones
Brewster
Valuev
Maskaev
Briggs
Chagaev
Ibragimov
Haye
Stiverne
Martin
Browne
Parker
Charr
Andy Ruiz
Bryan
Dubios

I guess that list was not shorter, but with a bunch of scrub champions added in there too. Since he beats all the scrub champions, he was not a scrub champion himself. Bottom end of non-scrub champions is where he would be placed by me.