The Gypsy King won clearly in an albeit disappointing showing. Now the army of haters claim Boxing is ruined as we've always known it...

[W1LL]

Why are there so many overly-emotional men involved in Boxing these days?

Francis Ngannou was greatly underrated by 99.9%, including Team Fury. On that showing, Ngannou would give anyone a tough fight. Showed better movement and timing, and better defence, than both Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder. Ngannou's style also makes him dangerous in any fight, with concussive power and unafraid to trade shots, with a very unorthodox technique and a solid chin. We won't know how good he really is until he's had another few fights.

Now.

Fury won 8 rounds clearly, easily outboxed Ngannou and gritted out the victory. You give Ngannou the 3rd due to the knockdown, and the 8th when he really opened up and had TGK looking uncomfortable and buzzed off one or two shots. Was clear that Tyson was out of shape and could not hurt Ngannou. You see someone like Floyd or Ray Robinson winning rounds in the same manner, and they are lauded. The amount of idiots crying robbery and claiming Boxing has been ruined... Embarrassing.

Did AJ ruin boxing when he underestimated the little fat Mexican? Did Wilder ruin boxing when he failed to KO Charlie Zelenoff?

In boxing, as in life, you have to take the rough with the smooth. Fury had a bad night, gritted out the win, made over ?00m, and he rolls on to the next challenge. Still #1. Still undefeated. Still the Lineal champion. Still the A-side in any Undisputed contest. Still the face of Heavyweight boxing.

The amount of Haters who seized on a poor night at the office to absolutely lambast Fury, cry robbery (ridiculous), and claim that boxing has been ruined... get a grip. Is your life really that uneventful?

We won't know how good Ngannou really is until he faces another active Heavyweight. From what I saw, I'd say he gives anyone problems. Fury is very elusive, but if Ngannou could land flush on a more static target, he would do serious damage. Ngannou gave a great account of himself, and it is disrespectful to him to say Fury just had a bad night. Fury did have a bad night, but Ngannou was still very impressive.

Ngannou brings an interesting dynamic to the division, and I'd love to see him in there with another big name. AJ and Wilder the obvious ones. I would not bet against Ngannou versus either of those two, based off his showing against Fury.

As a fan, this was an enthralling contest.

[TMLT87]

Boxing as a whole isnt ruined. I'd say this HW era is though. Nobody is going to discuss the Fury/AJ/Wilder/Usyk era in future decades without that Ngannou fight very quickly being brought up, and it'll make everything else seem kind of redundant.

[KP1]

Funny you mention AJ vs Ruiz as that was indeed used as concrete evidence that AJ was terrible and never any good in the first place.

Losing to a guy that many believe should have already been an undefeated WBO champion got AJ crucified much worse than this.

Whats actually worse is people trying to pretend Fury won easily and that Ngannou is now a genuine top threat and crying about giving him **** for embarrassing himself arguably worse than any boxer ever.

Fury, his team and his fans have been extremely arrogant and vocal about other guys shortcomings over the years, if they can dish it out, they can take.

Or just shut the **** up.

[W1LL]

Boxing as a whole isnt ruined. I'd say this HW era is though. Nobody is going to discuss the Fury/AJ/Wilder/Usyk era in future decades without that Ngannou fight very quickly being brought up, and it'll make everything else seem kind of redundant.

So we decide that now? What if Ngannou hangs around for a few more years and builds a respectable record? Ngannou is an Elite, HOF athlete, famous for brutal KOs, don't forget that.

[TMLT87]

So we decide that now? What if Ngannou hangs around for a few more years and builds a respectable record? Ngannou is an Elite, HOF athlete, famous for brutal KOs, don't forget that.

If he continues to do well at that level it makes things even worse imo. Hes a 37 year old ex-UFC champ, not some guy who had a few MMA fights then switched to boxing in his early 20s and worked his way up. These fights will never shake the image that its an MMA fighter immediately hanging at a level he shouldnt be able to.

He is an elite HOF athlete, but in another sport. Personally I used to think he may be good enough to be beat a few top 30 guys. Lets say guys at the level of Browne, Miller, Helenius, Kownacki, Washington, Takam, Breazele, old Pulev etc etc, and for even giving him that much credit plenty of people used to say I was ****ing crazy.

[W1LL]

Funny you mention AJ vs Ruiz as that was indeed used as concrete evidence that AJ was terrible and never any good in the first place.

Losing to a guy that many believe should have already been an undefeated WBO champion got AJ crucified much worse than this.

Whats actually worse is people trying to pretend Fury won easily and that Ngannou is now a genuine top threat and crying about giving him **** for embarrassing himself arguably worse than any boxer ever.

Fury, his team and his fans have been extremely arrogant and vocal about other guys shortcomings over the years, if they can dish it out, they can take.

Or just shut the **** up.

Right. So you got upset by people criticizing and condemning AJ for quitting against the fat Mexican? That is fair enough, I know a lot of you AJ/Hearns modern-casual fans were very traumatised by the way things unfolded at that time. You lost me after this however.

1. Fury did win clearly. Used basic boxing fundamentals to bag rounds in a very uninspiring performance. I don't know what to tell you, or those like you, who score boxing emotionally. There is a scoring system, perhaps you should look into it?

2. Francis Ngannou gave a great account of himself. He has made the step over seamlessly, and for a debut on such a massive stage, he done great. A few flaws in his game, all caused by lack of experience, but he can take a lot from his debut, and would be a tough proposition for anyone IMO.

Fury is the most hated-on Heavyweight of his era, one of the most hated fighters of this century. Yet the comments sections are always filled with rival fighters' fans crying about being victimized. Weird.

PS. If you want to see a clear robbery unfold, watch Anthony Joshua vs. Jermaine Franklin.

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Boxing as a whole isnt ruined. I'd say this HW era is though. Nobody is going to discuss the Fury/AJ/Wilder/Usyk era in future decades without that Ngannou fight very quickly being brought up, and it'll make everything else seem kind of redundant.

Doubt that tbh.

If Fury defeats Usyk, all will be forgotten.

Never forget that the 'greatest' Ali had to cheat to beat Henry Cooper

[Toffee]

PS. If you want to see a clear robbery unfold, watch Anthony Joshua vs. Jermaine Franklin.

What?

Go on, how did you score that fight?

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If he continues to do well at that level it makes things even worse imo. Hes a 37 year old ex-UFC champ, not some guy who had a few MMA fights then switched to boxing in his early 20s and worked his way up. These fights will never shake the image that its an MMA fighter immediately hanging at a level he shouldnt be able to.

He is an elite HOF athlete, but in another sport. Personally I used to think he may be good enough to be beat a few top 30 guys. Lets say guys at the level of Browne, Miller, Helenius, Kownacki, Washington, Takam, Breazele, old Pulev etc etc, and for even giving him that much credit plenty of people used to say I was ****ing crazy.

Ngannou is a dangerous combination of extreme power and unorthodox raw talent, but as someone else mentioned, he will likely become easier to the fight when he has more boxing training.

[KP1]

Right. So you got upset by people criticizing and condemning AJ for quitting against the fat Mexican? That is fair enough, I know a lot of you AJ/Hearns modern-casual fans were very traumatised by the way things unfolded at that time. You lost me after this however.

1. Fury did win clearly. Used basic boxing fundamentals to bag rounds in a very uninspiring performance. I don't know what to tell you, or those like you, who score boxing emotionally. There is a scoring system, perhaps you should look into it?

2. Francis Ngannou gave a great account of himself. He has made the step over seamlessly, and for a debut on such a massive stage, he done great. A few flaws in his game, all caused by lack of experience, but he can take a lot from his debut, and would be a tough proposition for anyone IMO.

Fury is the most hated-on Heavyweight of his era, one of the most hated fighters of this century. Yet the comments sections are always filled with rival fighters' fans crying about being victimized. Weird.

PS. If you want to see a clear robbery unfold, watch Anthony Joshua vs. Jermaine Franklin.

Actually AJ was mentioned in my post because you brought him up, just pointing out the irony considering you’re crying about people being big bad meanies to Fury while using an example that was hated on far far worse.

For example you’re referring to Ruiz as the fat Mexican while trying to hype a zero fight novice as some elite win.

Are you honestly telling me if AJ (since he seems to be the one brought up most since the fight) struggled to a points win while being dropped, face all busted up against an MMA fighter making his debut people like you wouldn’t be falling over laughing ?

There would be dozens of threads with 100+ comments mocking the fight, I know it, you know it.

Jake Paul has been making a decent living beating up MMA guys so cut the ****.

Fury is not one of the most hated fighters of his generation, put the victim card away poppet, up until blatantly mucking Usyk about he was given every benefit of every doubt, even now peeps like you are defending a blatant embarrassment.

PS - if you want to see a clear robbery go watch Fury vs McDermott he ate so many right hands it’s probably why he’s such a fat ****.