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    #21
    Originally posted by MDPopescu View Post
    ... they'll tell that was "rough house", "old school", etc... (many did already regarding some Ward's fights)...



    you must be able to win the boxing match...

    but, you also must be able to win the fight

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      #22
      Originally posted by RGJTMMRDCMJRJSM View Post
      No points deducted. Highly suspect refereeing, after elbows and headbutts to the head which was no accidental and was blatant intentional.

      As I said, referees in boxing country would notice this immediately and take action.
      Yet, you were perfectly fine with Crawford tossing a blatant low blow on Amir Khan because he failed to shatter the "glass jaw". Ref didn't call that DQ like he should have. What say you?

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        #23
        Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View Post
        Garcia looked whatever tonight. He had a close fight with Porter and Thurman, who had close fights with each other. Spence has a close fight with Porter as well.

        Pacquiao looked to be a class ahead of all of them when he beat Thurman convincingly but he lost to Jeff Horn.

        Crawford is a top 5 p4p guy but hasn’t proven himself at 147 yet.

        I think there’s a chance this division isn’t actually tough and that perception was created by promoters and their commentators pushing a narrative.

        None of these guys have proven themselves, except Pacquiao, and he’s 40-something with a loss to Jeff Horn.
        What other sports do you follow?

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          #24
          Originally posted by siablo14 View Post
          What other sports do you follow?
          - -He follows the furrows in rumps.

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            #25
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
            - -He follows the furrows in rumps.
            That went over my head.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Mrsantiago View Post
              Well he still lost. Sorry to say he did not dominate Horn as he was expected the fight was close and horn was roughing him up being extremely dirty but pac man did not fight fire with fire and left it in the judge’s hands.

              Big fights don’t really happen in Puerto Rico or Mexico and the US has had much more than its share of wtf decisions.

              Also if we’re gonna use location then Márquez would’ve gotten the nod over pac in Mexico lol if they would’ve fought there.

              Lastly while I get your point boxing is subjective according to whomever the judges are and like in certain fights but a loss is a loss weather we like it or not because when a fighter we like gets a close win we justify it but when they lose we complain. It reminds me of politics in America we don’t vote but then we complain about the person who won the election.
              - -Manny legally busted up Horn in his hometown big time. Horn ain't been the same since then.

              Politics be damned!

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                #27
                Im starting to think it is

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View Post
                  Garcia looked whatever tonight. He had a close fight with Porter and Thurman, who had close fights with each other. Spence has a close fight with Porter as well.

                  Pacquiao looked to be a class ahead of all of them when he beat Thurman convincingly but he lost to Jeff Horn.

                  Crawford is a top 5 p4p guy but hasn’t proven himself at 147 yet.

                  I think there’s a chance this division isn’t actually tough and that perception was created by promoters and their commentators pushing a narrative.

                  None of these guys have proven themselves, except Pacquiao, and he’s 40-something with a loss to Jeff Horn.
                  Been saying this exact thing for Y E A R S

                  Pac clearly (but competitively) beat prime Thurman. And as you point out Thurman, Danny, and Porter are C+ or B- level fighters (B at best). Spencer is a B or B+ fighter and Crawford is a B+ or A- fighter.

                  WW is not the glamour division but its living off the legacies created by Floyd and Manny. In a few more years - when Manny is gone for awhile - people will forget about WW and MW and SMW and LHW will have a resurgence.

                  Everything happens in cycles. Just how it goes

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by revelated View Post
                    Yet, you were perfectly fine with Crawford tossing a blatant low blow on Amir Khan because he failed to shatter the "glass jaw". Ref didn't call that DQ like he should have. What say you?
                    Crawford won every single round and KD Amir already. Khan was clinching and hanging on and was looking for a way out. That's why he called the fight 45 seconds into a 5 minute break

                    Lmfao...anything else, boy?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by UNBANNED View Post
                      Been saying this exact thing for Y E A R S

                      Pac clearly (but competitively) beat prime Thurman. And as you point out Thurman, Danny, and Porter are C+ or B- level fighters (B at best). Spencer is a B or B+ fighter and Crawford is a B+ or A- fighter.

                      WW is not the glamour division but its living off the legacies created by Floyd and Manny. In a few more years - when Manny is gone for awhile - people will forget about WW and MW and SMW and LHW will have a resurgence.

                      Everything happens in cycles. Just how it goes
                      Injured, between two surgeries, is not a prime Keith Thurman.

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