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    #61
    Originally posted by ELPacman View Post
    I agree with everything except saying Pac is part of the weak division. If anything, Pac has proven how weak the division is by taking out one of it's best in his prime while Pac is so far removed from his. If Pac was prime, he would probably have smoked the division without breaking a sweat.

    I feel like all these guys can face each other over and over and they will all be close decision wins with no one looking extremely dominant. Then the actual matches we want to see are just burning away due to the politics in boxing to make them happen.

    I'd love to see Crawford-Thurman, Crawford-Spence, Spence-Thurman. Those are probably the 3 biggest matches to make at WW and are taking forever to materialize. Heck, we are lucky Spence is even being mentioned still to be in those fights since his accident.

    It is a weak division. I think Heavyweight has probably taken back over and outshines WW at this point.

    Thurman wasn't in his prime.

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      #62
      If you don’t see anything special in Spence pre accident I don’t know what to say.

      147 is quality

      The fighters are good though with exception of Pac none are proven great.

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        #63
        Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View Post
        Sor Rungvisai, Estrada and Chocolotito have all fought each other. Nietes and Ioka fought each other. So I don’t know where you got that with 115.

        Heavyweight has three fighters who are debated to be the legitimate heavyweight champion, a few fighters who have only lost to one of those champions, one guy who’s only lost to Klitschko and a crop of undefeated fighters who haven’t gotten a shot yet

        175 has two high end champions, a guy who was competitive in a loss to one of them, Kovalev and a guy who’s 1-1 against Kovalev.

        168 has four undefeated champions, Canelo Alvarez and Danny Jacobs.
        Kovalev is clearly on his way out. The other two champions would beat him now. Yarde has never beaten a top 10 contender.

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          #64
          Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View Post
          Sor Rungvisai, Estrada and Chocolotito have all fought each other. Nietes and Ioka fought each other. So I don’t know where you got that with 115.

          Heavyweight has three fighters who are debated to be the legitimate heavyweight champion, a few fighters who have only lost to one of those champions, one guy who’s only lost to Klitschko and a crop of undefeated fighters who haven’t gotten a shot yet

          175 has two high end champions, a guy who was competitive in a loss to one of them, Kovalev and a guy who’s 1-1 against Kovalev.

          168 has four undefeated champions, Canelo Alvarez and Danny Jacobs.
          Red - I meant I wasn't familiar with them.

          blue - when then have all fought each other it will look like the WW division.

          Kovalev is done with. Why bring him up?

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            #65
            Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
            Kovalev is clearly on his way out. The other two champions would beat him now.
            He is referring Gvozdyk.

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              #66
              Originally posted by siablo14 View Post
              He is referring Gvozdyk.

              I hope so LOL.

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                #67
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
                - -Manny legally busted up Horn in his hometown big time. Horn ain't been the same since then.

                Politics be damned!
                Actually Manny looked like he underestimated horn and horn roughed his little ass up.
                Horn got a gift that night one and underprepared manny two yes hometown ref three some good old hometown cooking but don’t act like horn didn’t get his that night because he did but it was a closer fight and horn minus 9th rd did better than most expected so now you get butt hurt fan boys crying years later about the decision.

                Manny should’ve took horn serious and tko’d him and that would have been that. Also he wasn’t too keen on a rematch either but I wouldn’t advise him to take on that wild dusty style again if I was on his team.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Mrsantiago View Post
                  Actually Manny looked like he underestimated horn and horn roughed his little ass up.
                  Horn got a gift that night one and underprepared manny two yes hometown ref three some good old hometown cooking but don’t act like horn didn’t get his that night because he did but it was a closer fight and horn minus 9th rd did better than most expected so now you get butt hurt fan boys crying years later about the decision.

                  Manny should’ve took horn serious and tko’d him and that would have been that. Also he wasn’t too keen on a rematch either but I wouldn’t advise him to take on that wild dusty style again if I was on his team.
                  - -Last fight under Arum who cashed Manny out. Never see SissyBoyFloyd down under against a bigger, stronger young contender allowed to manhandle him.

                  Manny the most international great in history. Getta grip!

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