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[Sparked_26]

Guys, what do you think about Mudryk? Keep or sell?

Keep...I think.

He's very raw and I question his football intelligence massively and his first touch but he will do a bit of skill or an explosion of pace that shows massive promise. He can even pick a pass. Often he just can't put himself in an area of the pitch where he can use any of his ability other than broken play which rarely happens in the prem.

I can see him just striking hot in a match and destroying someone and then the hope is that he gains confidence and kicks on.

He's just such a novice. He's featured more for Chelsea now than he did at Shakhtar.

At 23 that is a mad career. He's not THAT young.

It is hard playing for Chelsea. We are s.hit and the vast majority of people will want them and their players to fail.

If he was just another player in a squad of great players he may have kicked on with less pressure.

To stay at Chelsea he needs to work harder defensively. We aren't very good so a way to win favour is to do your job going the other way.

I think he's probably a striker. A 9.5 playing off a main striker. Easier for him there. He can roam the pitch and he wont have to think so hard.

He struggles off the ball where we play him currently. He needs to be much closer to the goal.

Frank Lampard said he 'doesn't know the game'. He's got elite characteristics - searing pace, a decent shot, he can see a pass but at the level of the Premier league he has struggled to feel the game. At times he doesn't know what he's doing.

[Sparked_26]

Chelsea hit 40 points.

Just 1 man's dream and a billion pounds.

No more Chelsea for me this season.

Palmer is so much better than Chelsea at this point that it is humiliating really.

If I'm him I'm thinking...fu.ck it? Do Real Madrid need a 10? He moved to London by himself as a novice pro and I know of a lot of issues off the pitch that will have put a strain on him that will probably come out.

He's just a mentality monster as Klopp would say.

If I'm Real Madrid I get him now. And if I'm Palmer as a Manchester boy with no ties to this abject team - I'm off.

Imagine being Palmer and looking at Sterling and what he earns. I'm sure he respects Sterling as a man but as a footballer he must think that that bloke should really be giving me most of his wages.

Bless Sterling for never hiding but my God.

I'm never stretching and I'm tearing a hamstring. He needs to leave for everyone's sanity.

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Chelsea hit 40 points.

Just 1 man's dream and a billion pounds.

No more Chelsea for me this season.

Palmer is so much better than Chelsea at this point that it is humiliating really.

If I'm him I'm thinking...fu.ck it? Do Real Madrid need a 10? He moved to London by himself as a novice pro and I know of a lot of issues off the pitch that will have put a strain on him that will probably come out.

He's just a mentality monster as Klopp would say.

If I'm Real Madrid I get him now. And if I'm Palmer as a Manchester boy with no ties to this abject team - I'm off.

Imagine being Palmer and looking at Sterling and what he earns. I'm sure he respects Sterling as a man but as a footballer he must think that that bloke should really be giving me most of his wages.

Bless Sterling for never hiding but my God.

I'm never stretching and I'm tearing a hamstring. He needs to leave for everyone's sanity.

Sterling earned that though tbf. Now he's back in London and living life. Can't fault him for it.

Palmer can want more but doesn't mean he should get it.

Being a good player on a bad team doesn't always equate that. Look at Mount or even Zaha for example.

I'd let Palmer walk if he really thought he was too big for the club this early in his career. That's a bad egg if that were the case. Just like Mount who got his ego so inflated that it caused him to stagnate and even regress to the point that he's now pointless and Havertz is damn near winning the Prem

[Sparked_26]

I've always said the one guarantee Havertz offered was a very strong defensive header.

I'm just a fan who never played footy above Sunday league but it is wild to me that details like that never get sorted.

I've said it before but I'm pretty sure I could set up Chelsea better than Poch in many cases. How we set up at corners is an ********.

Mudryk marking VVD and now Sterling marking the big centre back from Burnley. The 6'2 Palmer on the edge of the box but all players back and none on the post.

I've not really seen anyone worse tactically than Poch. I don't think the Chelsea team are any good really but maybe they should be coasting in 7th.

But Poch I feel would comfortably relegate 2/3rd of the pl.

What would he do with Bournemouth say? They'd have about 10 points max. He is a tactical pygmy.

I dunno what the plan is? Teams should man mark Palmer. Nobody else is gonna do a thing.

They are weak bunch of players but coached by someone who is coaching them as if they are PSG playing FC Baguette

[The Defecator]

I've always said the one guarantee Havertz offered was a very strong defensive header.

I'm just a fan who never played footy above Sunday league but it is wild to me that details like that never get sorted.

I've said it before but I'm pretty sure I could set up Chelsea better than Poch in many cases. How we set up at corners is an ********.

Mudryk marking VVD and now Sterling marking the big centre back from Burnley. The 6'2 Palmer on the edge of the box but all players back and none on the post.

I've not really seen anyone worse tactically than Poch. I don't think the Chelsea team are any good really but maybe they should be coasting in 7th.

But Poch I feel would comfortably relegate 2/3rd of the pl.

What would he do with Bournemouth say? They'd have about 10 points max. He is a tactical pygmy.

I dunno what the plan is? Teams should man mark Palmer. Nobody else is gonna do a thing.

They are weak bunch of players but coached by someone who is coaching them as if they are PSG playing FC Baguette

Chelsea is on their fourth manager in two years. And, if you look at records and standings, three out of four have practically identical records and the fourth came on as a place holder that the players knew they could ignore. Given that Chelsea is getting the same results no matter who is on the touchline, the logical conclusion should be that something other than the manager is the problem.

[Sparked_26]

Chelsea is on their fourth manager in two years. And, if you look at records and standings, three out of four have practically identical records and the fourth came on as a place holder that the players knew they could ignore. Given that Chelsea is getting the same results no matter who is on the touchline, the logical conclusion should be that something other than the manager is the problem.

The players aren't very good but Poch should be getting these lot to 7th. No excuses even with the injuries.

They concede 2 goals every game.

I don't think we have scored from a corner or indirect free kick all season and we have conceded many goals the other way. It is the one thing you can replicate again and again.

Even penalties he hasnt made a decision. Sterling rips the ball from 100% Palmer.

The things he could coach he doesn't.

I think 99% of people looking at Chelsea will struggle to see what they work on as a team.

Chelsea never looked like a coached team all season. They just rely on the odd bit of quality from usually Palmer.

Poch is appalling tbf.

Potter was a nightmare and we couldn't score but you could see they were coached.

I suspect Poch has given up tbh.

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FC Baguette is funny af.

This period for the club feels like Liverpool's time a few years back where they were fielding Ricky Lambert and Sakho. Palmer is the early Coutinho standout but I wouldn't be surprised if he sputtered out, more surprised if he left and did like Sterling leaving Liverpool.

The one thing I will concede to Poch is that it took him about 3 seasons to get Tottenham going.

I don't see any manager coming in and instantly flipping this squad of never have I ever types into world beaters.

Maybe Conte and that's because he would literally crush their souls and if they didn't show up, he'd berate them ala Sir Alex Ferguson.

That's the only coach. Anyone else will have the same problems Poch is having, which is, they need time to grow up.

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Side note:

I came across a video discussing who is the better defender, Van Dijk or John Terry?

Perhaps that video needs more context as to what they mean by better defender but that's pretty much the question.

I am inclined to say Van Dijk is the better player all-around but that sent people into a spiral when I commented that.

What do you lot think?

[BodiesInFlight]

Poch is definitely lacking tactically. I thought that was his major weakness with us. We was well drilled though, and probably one of the fittest teams at the time, only Liverpool could run more and for longer.

But so many times he could get pretty easily out tacticed by average managers. I remember Slavern Bilic even did him a couple of times.

Also subs, he'd wait until the 88th minute to make a change. Very frustrating.

But your Chelsea squad was put together so, so poorly. Buying players with money in mind and not the team. Its all very Levy like if you ask me.
So i'm with the Defecator, changing managers is a pointless process until you sort out the squad. You're just not as good as you once were. Even if you had Pep or Klopp it aint happening

[BodiesInFlight]

Side note:

I came across a video discussing who is the better defender, Van Dijk or John Terry?

Perhaps that video needs more context as to what they mean by better defender but that's pretty much the question.

I am inclined to say Van Dijk is the better player all-around but that sent people into a spiral when I commented that.

What do you lot think?

I hated Terry but imo he was the best CB in the prem.

I'd put VVD in the same bracket as Vidic and Rio.