Top 10 Heavyweights

[brownpimp88]

I suppose that list isn't too bad. Here's mine.

1) Ali
2) Liston
3) Foreman
4) Tyson
5) Louis

Holmes is number 6. He could be number five, but he was suceptible to right hands too much, so I suppose Louis' right would make the difference.

Holmes would box foreman's ears off, trust me the larry that would fight george would be at an all time high, when it comes to iq. he would make sure that he would box him and win the decision. Foreman knew it too, george is wise.

Nobody bums of the month contenders were dropping louis, his chin is **** man. I can see tyson being in it and lewis being out though.

[brownpimp88]

Foreman's ears were boxed off by larry's mentor and his wannabe. I dont see foreman landing a right hand good enough to knock larry out. Shavers didnt do it, larry is tough.

[butterfly1964]

Holmes would box foreman's ears off, trust me the larry that would fight george would be at an all time high, when it comes to iq. he would make sure that he would box him and win the decision. Foreman knew it too, george is wise.

Nobody bums of the month contenders were dropping louis, his chin is **** man. I can see tyson being in it and lewis being out though.

I think that eventually Holmes would try to brawl with Foreman, which he always does at some point in a fight, especially if he was hurt. A shot Norton almost beat Holmes, while a prime Norton got destroyed by Foreman, so there you go.

Guys like Buddy Baer and Tony Galento may have been short on boxing skill, but they were extremely powerful men, and getting dropped by them is no real shame. I think Louis' chin is just as good as Lewis'. Louis never got ko'd with one punch like Lewis, and it took a lot of punshment to actually finish him off, if that happened.

[brownpimp88]

I think that eventually Holmes would try to brawl with Foreman, which he always does at some point in a fight, especially if he was hurt. A shot Norton almost beat Holmes, while a prime Norton got destroyed by Foreman, so there you go.

Guys like Buddy Baer and Tony Galento may have been short on boxing skill, but they were extremely powerful men, and getting dropped by them is no real shame. I think Louis' chin is just as good as Lewis'. Louis never got ko'd with one punch like Lewis, and it took a lot of punshment to actually finish him off, if that happened.

norton was shot? That was the best point of his career, after his first ali win. The guy was coming off wins over young, bobick(its like someone beating amir khan right now) and zanon. It was after his fight with holmes, thats when norton became shot. By the way, stylistically norton is good against boxers, i thought you knew that. Joe Frazier is the exact same thing, just pick on guys that cant punch and avoid the big hitters.

[butterfly1964]

norton was shot? That was the best point of his career, after his first ali win. The guy was coming off wins over young, bobick(its like someone beating amir khan right now) and zanon. It was after his fight with holmes, thats when norton became shot. By the way, stylistically norton is good against boxers, i thought you knew that. Joe Frazier is the exact same thing, just pick on guys that cant punch and avoid the big hitters.

Ok, then what about my second paragraph?

[brownpimp88]

Ok, then what about my second paragraph?

I see lennox lewis beating joe frazier, he didnt train properly in his two losses. Remember lennox is a hard hitter, ali ****in put joe in the hospital for 3 weeks. Joe cant take big punches, i see lennox using his reach and blasting frazier. I really dont hold joe in a high regard when it comes to head to head. Joe Louis was out as soon as schmeling clocked him, thats it. He is very vulnerable to the tyson and listons of the world. When Lennox uses his reach properly and doesnt let the man inside, he is great.

[hemichromis]

In no specifc order:

ali
holmes
foreman
liston
lewis

Rocky was a bully that fought grandfathers and small guys. Joe Frazier is lucky he didnt fight the amount of big punchers that norton did, it would end with the same result. Joe Louis had a ****ty chin, nuff said. I dont want to hear about any excuses, once he takes an overhand right, hes goin to sleep. I cant imagine jack johnson grappling foreman and then smiling on camera. Can you imagine jack dempsey trying to knock ali out.

Tyson has my number 6 spot by the way, he would maul jack's ****ty chin. He would blast frazier in one round and he would clock louis's fine wine glass with an overhand right.

i think marciano and frazier would both fall to liston but i do think liston would break a sweat!

rocky marciano fought everyone he could during his career he didn;t dodge anyone but he's still not in my top 5 due to being largely untested in his career.
Joe louis may have had a weak chin but almost all the knockdowns i have seen have resulted in him getting up, not looking slightly dazed and going straight back into the action.

i'm not entirely sure that lewis belongs in the top 5 due to his chin but i wouldn't have him lower than 8.

tyson IMO due to a lack of ring intelligence and losing his mental focus i would only rate him at 9 or 10. however physically/technically the only boxer who may have been better was roy jones jr and even he had a weak chin!

holmes also wasn't tested greatly but he was a great boxer and could come back from a big punch to he must be in the top 5.

i havent actually made a top 5 because i don't see how it can be done.

IMO marciano would have stooda pretty good chance against ali but he would have been destroyed by foreman

foreman did destroy frazier but was completely out boxed and KOed by ali.

[hemichromis]

Holmes would box foreman's ears off, trust me the larry that would fight george would be at an all time high, when it comes to iq. he would make sure that he would box him and win the decision. Foreman knew it too, george is wise.

Nobody bums of the month contenders were dropping louis, his chin is **** man. I can see tyson being in it and lewis being out though.

ali decided early on that he wouldn't last trying to dance away from foreman. so i doubt larry could do it.
larry also couldn't rope-a-dope effectively because he had a softer chin than ali. his recuperation powers were great but they relied on overpowering an opponent while his head cleared, he simply couldn't do this with foreman.

Larry did have a good jab, if he could keep foreman behind it he could easily win on points but i don't think even larry is capable of that.

[brownpimp88]

Jimmy young exposed him for being wild and innaccurate, foreman came back when tyson becomes champ, he wont do it when holmes was champ for 7 years. Larry has always been obsessed with outboxing that fatass, george's own camp knows he cant beat him.

[hemichromis]

I see lennox lewis beating joe frazier, he didnt train properly in his two losses. Remember lennox is a hard hitter, ali ****in put joe in the hospital for 3 weeks. Joe cant take big punches, i see lennox using his reach and blasting frazier. I really dont hold joe in a high regard when it comes to head to head. Joe Louis was out as soon as schmeling clocked him, thats it. He is very vulnerable to the tyson and listons of the world. When Lennox uses his reach properly and doesnt let the man inside, he is great.

didn't it take 12 or 14 rounds for schemling to beat him b timing his jab when louis was very very green?! this loss was then reverse with a 1st round KO

joe is great head to head most boxers are not at all comfortable inside, their defence suffers and they find it hard to punch. frazier inside still has the power and it makes his head a very difficult target.

the truth is everyone tried to stop frazier getting inside. the only man to succed was foreman and that was by pushing rather than punches