Top 10 Heavies from best to worst

[Barn]

My list is a combined-criteria system involving considerations of both head-to-head & accolades. That being the case, my top-10 figures to be...

Champion - Joe Louis

#1 Contender - Muhammad Ali

3. George Foreman

4. Jack Dempsey

5. Sonny Liston

6. Joe Frazier

7. Lennox Lewis

8. Larry Holmes

9. Evander Holyfield

10. Mike Tyson

Honourable Mentions: Gene Tunney, Rocky Marciano, Rid**** Bowe, Jim Jeffries.

Among the worst in history (linear-only) would be Leon Spinks, Hasim Rahman, Marvin Hart, & Shannon Briggs.

Good list but, do you not rate Jack Johnson very highly? I have JJ #3.

[Joeyzagz]

Funniest ever comment on the site.



Lewis had a C grade chin man.

Ali was down 5 times in his career against 185-200 lbers

Foreman was down 4 times in his career against 200-220 lbers

Lennox was down only twice in his career against 233 lb behemoths. And the 2nd kd occured at 6000 ft above sea level where he hadnt trained. There are people who pass out jogging from that altitude.

[Barn]

Ali went down Foreman went down, Lewis to quote from sonnyboyx2 "got absolutely poleaxed from two journeymen".

[StarshipTrooper]

Ali went down Foreman went down, Lewis to quote from sonnyboyx2 "got absolutely poleaxed from two journeymen".

Or, to put it bluntly, Lennox got KTFO by overglorified sparring partners and weight had nothing to do with it.

Poet

[Joeyzagz]

Ali went down Foreman went down, Lewis to quote from sonnyboyx2 "got absolutely poleaxed from two journeymen".

Lennox went down against Oliver Mccall, and got back up. Don King told the ref to end the fight so that Tyson wouldnt have to face him in the future.

Lennox shouldve been given the opportunity to continue just like Gene Tunney, Foreman and all the other greats who went down. Lennox had excellent recovery skills. He was rocked badly by Vitali and Briggs and came back fresh every single time.

If Lennox existed in Ali's era where fights where conducted at sea level, and King wasnt rich enough to buy referees yet, Lennox may have well gone undefeated.

[The Iron Man]

Ali was down 5 times in his career against 185-200 lbers

Foreman was down 4 times in his career against 200-220 lbers

Lennox was down only twice in his career against 233 lb behemoths. And the 2nd kd occured at 6000 ft above sea level where he hadnt trained. There are people who pass out jogging from that altitude.

I've only got four people to knock down Ali, whos the 5th?

Sonny Banks
Henry Cooper
Joe Fraizer
Chuck Wepner

Ali also came back to win 3 of these fights. Lewis lost all of his fights he was knocked down in. I don't really see what point you are making.

[StarshipTrooper]

Conspiracy theories now :rolleyes9:

[fight_professor]

I can only conclude that you are Lewis's rent boy.

[StarshipTrooper]

I've only got four people to knock down Ali, whos the 5th?

Sonny Banks
Henry Cooper
Joe Fraizer
Chuck Wepner

Ali also came back to win 3 of these fights. Lewis lost all of his fights he was knocked down in. I don't really see what point you are making.

Not to mention there's a big difference between being dropped (which can happen to anyone) and getting KTFO (which is the REAL indicator of how good a fighter's chin is).

Poet

[Joeyzagz]

and weight had nothing to do with it.

Poet

Ok, Why do we even need weight classes?

If weight has absolutely no bearing on power then we should only have one belt annd let everyone from 90lbs to 250lbs fight for it!

Its just a coincidence that Sonny Liston and Foreman outweighed over 90% of their opponents, had no affect on their high KO ratios.

Its only a coincidence that Manny stopped flooring opponents once he fought 160 lb men.

jeesus...