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    ‘Shrine’ in Turkey Turns Out to be Tomb of Ancient Greek Boxer Diagoras

    Guessing the board has a select few who want to take a little break from the granular debating and self aggrandizement and indulge in a little boxing history, maybe.........

    In the news today in Greece:




    ‘Shrine’ in Turkey Turns Out to be Tomb of Ancient Greek Boxer Diagoras.

    A 2,300-year-old tomb in southwest Turkey—once revered as a holy Islamic site—turns out to have been the tomb of ancient Greek boxer Diagoras.

    Local people in the Marmaris district of Turgut thought the unusual hilltop pyramid tomb was the burial place of a holy figure in Islam, and they treated it as such for centuries, conducting sacred rites at the site.

    According to tradition, young men going into the army to do their military service would take a handful of earth from the area around tomb as a good-luck talisman, due to its holy status.

    The tomb, called �ağbaba in Turkish, even served as a pilgrimage site for the local faithful. Believers traveled to the site from across the country to pray for health and good fortune.

    Many residents continued to treat it like a holy place until the 1970s when, Turkish newspaper Milliyet reported, looters ransacked the tomb and its status as a religious site was questioned.

    Despite these doubts about its Islamic roots, locals continued to treat the ancient tomb, now determined to date back nearly 2,400 years, as a holy site.

    The was until archaeologists uncovered strong evidence that pyramid-structure actually served as the burial site to famed ancient Greek boxer Diagoras of Rhodes, justifying long-held doubts about the tomb’s history.

    Archaeologists discovered a Greek inscription on the tomb’s walls, identifying Diagoras and featuring a quote from the athlete from beyond the grave, stating: “I will be vigilant at the very top so as to ensure that no coward can come and destroy this tomb.”

    According to reports, there was also mention of Diagoras’ wife, Aristomache, at the tomb. Archaeologists posit that there was once a sculpture of the couple at the site, that has since been stolen by looters.
    Diagoras was one of the most popular figures in antiquity during the fifth-century BC, and his successes in boxing were so well known that the athlete was greeted with applause nearly everywhere he went, according to ancient sources.

    A descendant of ancient royals from Rhodes and Messenia, the boxer was the top athlete of his day, having won twice at the Olympic games, twice at the Nemean games, four times at the Isthmian games, and at least once at the Pythean games.

    All three of Diagoras’ sons–Damagetos, Akousilaos, and Dorieus–were Olympic champions, reaching or surpassing their father’s fame and talent.

    This was considered the highest honor for a father in antiquity.

    The immense strength of both Diagoras and his ancestors was heralded by ancient authors, particularly Pindar and Pausanias.

    According to historians from antiquity, Damagetos and Akousilaos, Diagoras’ oldest children, carried their father on their shoulders after the two won at the Olympic games, an image that has become a symbol of a parent’s joy at seeing their children reach new heights.

    A modern statue depicting the scene of Diagoras on the shoulders of his sons stands in the City of Rhodes, and the island’s airport is named after the ancient athlete.

    #2
    Pretty cool find!!

    Got me thinking though. Boxing with rules started in Greece. Why have we not seen more elite Greek fighters through the years. It's almost a forgotten country when it comes to boxing, which is surprising given its roots.

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      #3
      - - Too busy introducing Mediterranean delicacies to the world after being overrun by other cultures.

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        #4
        Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
        Pretty cool find!!

        Got me thinking though. Boxing with rules started in Greece. Why have we not seen more elite Greek fighters through the years. It's almost a forgotten country when it comes to boxing, which is surprising given its roots.
        Often wondered about that myself. The nation of 10.5 million (13th of 48 in Europe) has certainly never forgotten their Boxing roots, with mountains and airports named for them. Overdue "Ballott" Hall of famer Anton Cristoforidis is probably the greatest in the modern game. He was a world champion who gave future hall of famer Jimmy Bivins a shellacking in handing Bivins the first loss of his storied career. But after that, no true great ones. Sparta's Mitchell Karmanos & George Tuntas, Denosthenes Wakerles, Mistos Grispos, Nikolaos Mastoridis, Theofanis Tzanetopoulos, Tanos Lambrianides, Costas Vassis (from whom Christoforidis won the Greek Light Heavyweight title in 37') were some of the best; not really an overly impressive roster given greek boxing history. LA based Stylianos Papadopoulos is a good looking prospect.

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          #5
          It was apparently already noted in the Turkish press in 2018. That, and other info regarding Diagoras, can be found here:

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            #6
            Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
            Pretty cool find!!

            Got me thinking though. Boxing with rules started in Greece. Why have we not seen more elite Greek fighters through the years. It's almost a forgotten country when it comes to boxing, which is surprising given its roots.
            Maybe they prefer wrestling.

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              #7
              Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
              Pretty cool find!!

              Got me thinking though. Boxing with rules started in Greece. Why have we not seen more elite Greek fighters through the years. It's almost a forgotten country when it comes to boxing, which is surprising given its roots.
              interesting point, I read somewhere that it was a different version of western boxing, and western boxing made it's entrance from asia (I think Burma) and mixed with other things such as fencing, which in the era of swords makes a lot of sense. hitting with the fists wasn't a greek thing since hands break. The asians learned how to harden the hands and use them as weapons etc.

              jumble those random points into one main point, the greek way of boxing died off long ago and the boxing we have today formed maybe starting in the 1600s at the very earliest??

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                #8
                Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post

                Maybe they prefer wrestling.
                Imagine if they found Whyte's B-sample in there.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by markusmod View Post

                  Imagine if they found Whyte's B-sample in there.
                  I take it that's a current boxer? Can you tell me the full name so I get the reference?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post

                    I take it that's a current boxer? Can you tell me the full name so I get the reference?
                    The Shyte of Whyte B sample.
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