Now that Fenech's loss to Nelson has been overturned.....

[Willie Pep 229]

This sets a precedent for an endless stream of appeals by fighters who have been robbed over the years. It will be interesting to see how this plays out going forward. I can think of several robberies that should be reviewed and overturned.

This seems as important, not, as Jack Johnson's pardon. We are going to rewrite history because we need to know that posterity will know we didn't agree with what occurred before us?

They can study the history as well as we can and the will drawn their own conclusions as to what occurred and what was wrong. They don't need us to announce past wrongs to them.

So for whom, and why are we doing this, so we can feel better about ourselves.

And I haven't even touched on how pointless it is to have corrupt scantioning bodies rewriting their own history as if this will undo the wrongs and then what?, con us into believing they're now going to act in an honest manner.

Leave the past ugly, so that posterity can learn from it just as we have.

These pardons and adjustments are just a pretentious generation (us) trying to tell future generations how they should evaluate the past.

[GhostofDempsey]

This seems as important, not, as Jack Johnson's pardon. We are going to rewrite history because we need to know that posterity will know we didn't agree with what occurred before us?

They can study the history as well as we can and the will drawn their own conclusions as to what occurred and what was wrong. They don't need us to announce past wrongs to them.

So for whom, and why are we doing this, so we can feel better about ourselves.

And I haven't even touched on how pointless it is to have corrupt scantioning bodies rewriting their own history as if this will undo the wrongs and then what?, con us into believing they're now going to act in an honest manner.

Leave the past ugly, so that posterity can learn from it just as we have.

These pardons and adjustments are just a pretentious generation (us) trying to tell future generations how they should evaluate the past.

I'm torn on this. On the one hand, we have technology to review fights more accurately and correct some of the wrongs of past decisions. On other other hand, who is going to review them and to what end? After decisions are overturned, how does that affect a respective fighter's legacy and Hall of Fame status? This has the potential for corruption if decisions are wrongly overturned due to bribes, blackmail or other possibilities.

I would love to see Castillo and Maidana get their rightful wins over Floyd, or Manny's robberies overturned in Marquez I, Bradley I and Horn. I suspect fighters like Floyd, Ali, and Ward will be exempt from decisions being overturned that go against them.

[Doctor Bill]

Billy Graham was reputedly robbed against Kid Gavilan. I say reputedly, since I haven't watched it. However, everything I've read on that fight says the decision was bad, and most articles argue that the mob fixed the fight. Chavez-Whittaker, DLH-Mosley II, among other championship fights come to mind.

[ShoulderRoll]

Whitaker refused to engage Chavez that's why get didn't get the decision. Taylor took the fight to Chavez, would have gotten the decision if the fight went to decision. Whitaker was a master stall and bore.

Whitaker took it to Chavez and beat him at his own game, on the inside.

It wasn't even that close.

[IronDanHamza]

What is next, The IBF awarding the middle wight belt to Dave Tiberi who was flat out robbed of victory in his fight with James Toney?

Great point.

That was the biggest and most clear robbery I ever watched.

[Rockybigblower]

If not Ward/Kovalev 1.....then certainly Ward/Kovalev 2.

[QueensburyRules]

- - WBC, warmly nestled in home of the largest human and drug smuggling operation in the world as well as sex trafficking, they gonna clean up boxing by cleaning up the world at their annual luxury hotel convention in Acapulco, to wit:


There was a brief interruption in proceedings as the WBC board of governors resolved to NOT sanction fights nor fighters from both Russia and Belarus due to the ongoing war between Russia and Ukraine.

Keep in mind this is solely their operations. They cannot prevent state and national commishes from sanctioning Bivol or Beter from fighting where ever they want. They can only withhold their ratings which are bought anyway, and their title belts.

[Willie Pep 229]

Whitaker took it to Chavez and beat him at his own game, on the inside.

It wasn't even that close.

You mean it wasn't even close to being decided.

It took six fights for SRR to finally express his domination of LaMotta.

You actually think what happened in that ring thst night was the end all to the Whitaker-Chavez question?

You watch too much sport; you got counting points on the mind not prize fighting.

[Willow The Wisp]

This seems as important, not, as Jack Johnson's pardon. We are going to rewrite history because we need to know that posterity will know we didn't agree with what occurred before us?

They can study the history as well as we can and the will drawn their own conclusions as to what occurred and what was wrong. They don't need us to announce past wrongs to them.

So for whom, and why are we doing this, so we can feel better about ourselves.

And I haven't even touched on how pointless it is to have corrupt scantioning bodies rewriting their own history as if this will undo the wrongs and then what?, con us into believing they're now going to act in an honest manner.

Leave the past ugly, so that posterity can learn from it just as we have.

These pardons and adjustments are just a pretentious generation (us) trying to tell future generations how they should evaluate the past.

Great post. Such far reaching ramifications beyond boxing.

[Ivich]

You mean it wasn't even close to being decided.

It took six fights for SRR to finally express his domination of LaMotta.

You actually think what happened in that ring thst night was the end all to the Whitaker-Chavez question?

You watch too much sport; you got counting points on the mind not prize fighting.

I have to disagree I thought Whitaker won it and without any doubt.If the correct result had been given there would have been no necessity for a rematch, which Pea never got anyway.I'm a Chavez fan rather than a Whitaker one but Pea won that fight,and won it well,imo