Which Draw was the biggest robbery?

[GhostofDempsey]

You literally just said that people think Marquez was robbed because his crying had planted that seed in their brain

That is literally a baseless assertion by you whilst having the audacity to talk about proving things and living in alternate realities It’s almost painfully ironic.

Knockdowns being a point deduction is a judges discretion, you know that right? The judge isn’t obliged to give a point deduction for a KD. So no he objectively wasn’t cheated out of anything.

The fight was close, a draw was fair. No where even close to a robbery despite your weird inclusion of it amongst genuine robberies.

The narrative for years was Marquez was robbed, not Pacquaio. Reality is neither of them were.

You keep doubling down on this when it was clear to anyone with any sense of reason that Manny was robbed in the first fight. You are resorting to semantics and deflection now. All in a petty effort to taunt and get the last word. You are unable to provide proof or evidence of what you are claiming. Waste someone else’s time.

[just the facts]

Pray tell what is a "boxing IQ" ? Sounds made up.

Everyone agreeing is not necessarily a good thing, it's just everyone agreeing.

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I figured you were one of those “I’m right and everyone else is wrong” guy.

[Willie Pep 229]

I figured you were one of those “I’m right and everyone else is wrong” guy.

Already said that. Something new?

[just the facts]

Already said that. Something new?

Nothing new to say to someone who believes they’re right and everyone else is wrong.

[Willie Pep 229]

Nothing new to say to someone who believes they’re right and everyone else is wrong.

Nothing to say to someone who only believes something if it's popular.

YOUR WORDS: "Every poster in it agrees with me."

[just the facts]

Nothing to say to someone who only believes something if it's popular.

YOUR WORDS: "Every poster in it agrees with me."

It’s not a popular opinion it’s a fact. Every intelligent poster in this thread agrees with me. That’s just a fact.

[IronDanHamza]

You keep doubling down on this when it was clear to anyone with any sense of reason that Manny was robbed in the first fight. You are resorting to semantics and deflection now. All in a petty effort to taunt and get the last word. You are unable to provide proof or evidence of what you are claiming. Waste someone else’s time.

Except he wasn’t robbed in anyone’s mind except an extremely small amount of people like yourself.

Stop talking about proof until you prove that people think Marquez was robbed because “he planted it in their brains”

Go ahead and prove that baseless assertion.

Furthermore, what exactly are you saying my claim is here? Since you are asking for proof of my claim.

[GhostofDempsey]

Except he wasn’t robbed in anyone’s mind except an extremely small amount of people like yourself.

Stop talking about proof until you prove that people think Marquez was robbed because “he planted it in their brains”

Go ahead and prove that baseless assertion.

Furthermore, what exactly are you saying my claim is here? Since you are asking for proof of my claim.

I still haven't seen any of this overwhelming evidence to support your claim that most people think Marquez won, outside of Marquez and his delusional fans.

I already proved he was robbed since Burt Clements failed to score the third knockout in the first round, that point to Manny wins him the fight. He also landed more punches in the fight. You insist on taking this in circles in a lame effort to argue over something that I've already proven. You, are unable to prove anything you've claimed. As usual.

[IronDanHamza]

I still haven't seen any of this overwhelming evidence to support your claim that most people think Marquez won, outside of Marquez and his delusional fans.

I already proved he was robbed since Burt Clements failed to score the third knockout in the first round, that point to Manny wins him the fight. He also landed more punches in the fight. You insist on taking this in circles in a lame effort to argue over something that I've already proven. You, are unable to prove anything you've claimed. As usual.

Another painfully ironic statement there. Your position is that more fans think Pacquaio was robbed in that first fight than Marquez was? What a laughably absurd position. The audacity of you to consider that as delusion when it’s the opposing that is the epitome of that word. But that’s thing about delusion, you aren’t of it.

Obviously more fans consider Marquez as the one robbed in that first fight. That’s not even a question and you’ve basically confirmed it with your baseless assertion that Marquez’ “crying” planted a seed in their brain. Doesn’t make it true which it’s not, but to actually try and claim that more people think PacquIo was robbed than Marquez was robbed is just ridiculous.

Ok so I’ll ask again since you’ve failed to answer, what are you trying to say I am claiming here? What is my position that you want me to prove?

Then to respond to that, I’d like you to now prove;

Fans think Marquez was robbed in that first fight because his crying planting a seed in their brain.

And

That Pacquaio landed more punches than Marquez.


He landed more punches to who? Not according to Compubox he didn’t, according to Compubox Marquez in fact landed more punches than Pacquaio. So, what are you basing that claim on? And can you prove it?

Again, Burt Clements is not obliged to score a KD as a point deduction I’m not sure if you are aware of that. So that doesn’t prove anything and even if that were the case is still doesn’t qualify as a robbery or anything close to it.

[GhostofDempsey]

Another painfully ironic statement there. Your position is that more fans think Pacquaio was robbed in that first fight than Marquez was? What a laughably absurd position. The audacity of you to consider that as delusion when it’s the opposing that is the epitome of that word. But that’s thing about delusion, you aren’t of it.

Obviously more fans consider Marquez as the one robbed in that first fight. That’s not even a question and you’ve basically confirmed it with your baseless assertion that Marquez’ “crying” planted a seed in their brain. Doesn’t make it true which it’s not, but to actually try and claim that more people think PacquIo was robbed than Marquez was robbed is just ridiculous.

Ok so I’ll ask again since you’ve failed to answer, what are you trying to say I am claiming here? What is my position that you want me to prove?

Then to respond to that, I’d like you to now prove;

Fans think Marquez was robbed in that first fight because his crying planting a seed in their brain.

And

That Pacquaio landed more punches than Marquez.


He landed more punches to who? Not according to Compubox he didn’t, according to Compubox Marquez in fact landed more punches than Pacquaio. So, what are you basing that claim on? And can you prove it?

Again, Burt Clements is not obliged to score a KD as a point deduction I’m not sure if you are aware of that. So that doesn’t prove anything and even if that were the case is still doesn’t qualify as a robbery or anything close to it.

Now you're rambling. Clements admits he screwed up, and it was his fault the fight was a draw. You can continue this attrition game all you want, but you've proven nothing that you've claimed.

The quotes Clements after the fight:

"I just screwed up. I feel badly because I dropped the ball, plainly and simply. You can make a lot of arguments that it was a very close fight, but that's immaterial. The fact is, I dropped the ball."