Whitaker vs Rivera I

[oldgringo]

I have and I saw him lose to DLH, Ramirez, Rivera and possibly also Vasquez! Its you guys who refuse to see the truth. He was a good fighter yes, but not great.

Probably Haugen too huh

[Benncollinsaad]

Did you see him before that? Because those were some of the last fights of his career. And he definitely beat Vasquez.

Ive seen him against Mayweather and Chavez. And McGirt, both times. He was good in those fights, but they were all tough fights.

[Trenchant]

The first fight with Rivera, I saw this fight on tv live and I was tripping on how off and out of it Whitaker was. He was clearly out of shape visibly and Rivera was a good , very good fighter and Rivera definitely won.

[IMDAZED]

Ive seen him against Mayweather and Chavez. And McGirt, both times. He was good in those fights, but they were all tough fights.

Yeah...so what's your point? He had a tough fight with a relatively prime Chavez, oh no!

[Benncollinsaad]

Yeah...so what's your point? He had a tough fight with a relatively prime Chavez, oh no!

I thought the first McGirt fight was very close. Might've been a draw.

[crold1]

I have and I saw him lose to DLH, Ramirez, Rivera and possibly also Vasquez! Its you guys who refuse to see the truth. He was a good fighter yes, but not great.

You started the thread saying you never saw the Rivera fight and now you have?

[blacklodge]

Before McGirt I, you could count on one hand the amount of rounds Whitaker lost in his professional career. A hand that's missing fingers. 147 was 1 weight class too high, I think. What was he, 5'6"? He should have stayed at 140 and beat Chavez, Frankie Randall and Kostya Tszyu. Tons of good fights there. Close out his career with Zab Judah or something.
I hated his guts, still do kind of, but he was practically unbeatable pre-'95.

[Benncollinsaad]

You started the thread saying you never saw the Rivera fight and now you have?

I have seen it since then.

[CCobra]

I have and I saw him lose to DLH, Ramirez, Rivera and possibly also Vasquez! Its you guys who refuse to see the truth. He was a good fighter yes, but not great.

You're an absolute ****ing idiot. You saw him lose to Ramirez? You're a worse judge than Doug Tucker. NOBODY (save for the judges) saw that fight for Ramirez. Anybody who did either has an extreme hate for Whitaker (which you obviously do) or just does not know how to score a fight (which you obviously don't).

Whitaker-Ramirez I - 118-110 for Pernell Whitaker
Whitaker-Ramirez II - 120-108 for Pernell Whitaker
Whitaker-Chavez - 118-110 for Pernell Whitaker

[Benncollinsaad]

You're an absolute ****ing idiot. You saw him lose to Ramirez? You're a worse judge than Doug Tucker. NOBODY (save for the judges) saw that fight for Ramirez. Anybody who did either has an extreme hate for Whitaker (which you obviously do) or just does not know how to score a fight (which you obviously don't).

Whitaker-Ramirez I - 118-110 for Pernell Whitaker
Whitaker-Ramirez II - 120-108 for Pernell Whitaker
Whitaker-Chavez - 118-110 for Pernell Whitaker

Those scores are joke.