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    Originally posted by solidman View Post
    Liston was the perfect heavyweight in my opinion in terms of build and ability.
    And he would weigh about 235 today.

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      He also would have a lot of potential in MMA. I can't even imagine the damage he would do with the small gloves and adding elbows, knees, kicks etc. considering his bone density, and he was already an extremely powerful and unusually skilled grappler as a boxer, if he trained his greco roman wrestling more he would control any opponent and it would be almost impossible to take him down with his strong base and long arms, he would stuff any takedown and make them pay as his fists would reach them as they moved away.

      But that's a different discussion. Like I said I always found him a genetic marvel.
      Anomalocaris Anomalocaris likes this.

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        Originally posted by BKM- View Post
        He also would have a lot of potential in MMA. I can't even imagine the damage he would do with the small gloves and adding elbows, knees, kicks etc. considering his bone density, and he was already an extremely powerful and unusually skilled grappler as a boxer, if he trained his greco roman wrestling more he would control any opponent and it would be almost impossible to take him down with his strong base and long arms, he would stuff any takedown and make them pay as his fists would reach them as they moved away.

        But that's a different discussion. Like I said I always found him a genetic marvel.
        He was a fecking beast.

        A human terminator.
        nathan sturley max baer likes this.

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          Originally posted by Anomalocaris View Post

          He was a fecking beast.

          A human terminator.
          I agree
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            Originally posted by BKM- View Post
            He also would have a lot of potential in MMA. I can't even imagine the damage he would do with the small gloves and adding elbows, knees, kicks etc. considering his bone density, and he was already an extremely powerful and unusually skilled grappler as a boxer, if he trained his greco roman wrestling more he would control any opponent and it would be almost impossible to take him down with his strong base and long arms, he would stuff any takedown and make them pay as his fists would reach them as they moved away.

            But that's a different discussion. Like I said I always found him a genetic marvel.
            - - Sonny would go with boxing because that's where the $$$ was and still is...

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              We all miss you Sonny
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                Originally posted by solidman View Post
                We all miss you Sonny
                this may interest everyone. A video about sonny's death. the channel is great too
                I love this channel I discovered it yesterday. He has some brilliant short videos.
                this is another from the channel.

                this is a good bio of liston.

                I enjoyed this too
                Last edited by max baer; 06-09-2025, 07:43 PM.

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                  people who like liston will probably like this long interview with him. I have not seen many at all like this.

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                    Originally posted by BKM- View Post

                    You don't like Liston because he badly beat up the small Patterson and stands in the way of your "little good man can beat bigger good man" argument.
                    This isn’t true at all. Patterson is one of my least favourite heavyweights lol. Liston isn’t just bigger than Patterson he’s also better.

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