Welter greats Mayweather would have ducked

[djtmal]

I couldnāt agree more, the whole world knows he ducked any inkling of risk. This is why everyone talks **** about him

Everybody except Floyd stans understand that when he became the a side Floyd just wanted easy fights. Didn't want to risk losing.

[djtmal]

Because Pacquaio refused to accept a 14 day cut-off, correct?

He agreed to all the demands Floyd was scared

[djtmal]

You assert things without substance, the only proof you have is that one party kept making demands, there has never been OST before or after.

You know that usada was a Mayweather appointed company that nobody knew about in 2009?

[travestyny]

He agreed to all the demands Floyd was scared

You've already seen the video where he tells you he declined the 14 day cut off during the 1st negotiation.

It's been clear from the beginning that the least likely to tell the truth here would be you and the thread starter. Having to blatantly lie for all to see makes you feel better than accepting a painful truth, for sure

The others at least haven't been outright lying.... just refusing to answer questions. lol.


If you guys can't handle the truth, you should stop exposing yourselves more and more. The longer it goes, the more tragic it seems that the truth hurts you guys so badly.

[travestyny]

there has never been OST before or after.

You realize this is a lie, right?


Regardless of that being a lie, during the first negotiation, Mayweather ultimately didn't ask Pacquaio to agree to OST. They agreed on extra testing. They disagreed on the timeframe for the extra testing. I would discuss it with you all but something about it makes you all freeze up, duck, and dodge.

Whenever any of you wants a discussion about it, I'll be around.

[djtmal]

You've already seen the video where he tells you he declined the 14 day cut off during the 1st negotiation.

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You do know they went back and forth with this after Mayweather wouldn't accept 24 days, the negotiations were still active, and this video isn't the actual negotiation that's an interview.

In the actual 2009 negotiation both sides agreed to everything, then Mayweather came back last minute and demanded Olympic Style testing be done by a Mayweather appointed organization. Now if that don't smell like bs.

After Manny conceded to 14 days Floyd moved the goalposts to zero, which is what he really wanted, and in that interview Manny clearly states he's not willing to do zero cutoff.

[travestyny]

You do know they went back and forth with this after Mayweather wouldn't accept 24 days, the negotiations were still active, and this video isn't the actual negotiation that's an interview.

In the actual 2009 negotiation both sides agreed to everything, then Mayweather came back last minute and demanded Olympic Style testing be done by a Mayweather appointed organization. Now if that don't smell like bs.

After Manny conceded to 14 days Floyd moved the goalposts to zero, which is what he really wanted, and in that interview Manny clearly states he's not willing to do zero cutoff.

This can very easily be verified and I've already asked you to do so, but you wouldn't.

Give us the exact date that Pacquiao agreed to a 14 day cut-off. Simple.

Can you provide it or not?



And you are easily proven lying. At the time of the video, Mayweather was not asking Pacquaio to do a zero-day cutt-off. Brian Kenny says it specifically that Mayweather is asking for a 14 day cut-off only in the damn video. Why lie?

[djtmal]

This can very easily be verified and I've already asked you to do so, but you wouldn't.

We already been down this road ad nauseum.

Myself and others put up all the proof and backup for years and you still don't accept it. You keep asking the same bs questions.

We already came to the conclusion that Floyd was scared and the evidence speaks to that

[TintaBoricua]

I see Floyd differently. One dimensional, one two, that's it. He didn't have range as a fighter, just one punch or one two. A very boring basic fighter after 147. Nobody was allowed to brawl with him or try to hurt the only franchise the establishment had. Nobody went Vinny Paz on Floyd because they weren't allowed. Floyd knew he was safe and just pitter pattered his way to 50-0. Everybody had to be polite to Floyd, in the ring and out. Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Martinez, Thurman would have eaten him alive. Without establishment protection Floyd would have about ten losses.

I come to the history section thinking people with some semblance of sanity and genuine interest in the sport and its history will be found here, and I come across this such an obtuse take.

Say what you want about Mayweather very well losing to monsters like Leonard/Hearns/Duran at 135 but Thurman?

Pffft.

Thurman would’ve gotten beat by Floyd. Furthermore, nobody was “polite” with Floyd. Corley, Mosley, Maidana, Oscar, Cotto and many other fighters tried all their different strategies to beat Floyd. They all failed.

Where is all this wave of “protection” allegations coming from? Counters hurt more than regular ass punches. You get punished for attacking. In doing so, you become gun shy. Maidana plowed through but ran out of gas in the first fight. Oscar faded as well. So did Cotto. Floyd was a phenomenal counter puncher with world class stamina coupled that only complimented his low output but extremely high accuracy. You never saw Floyd struggling for air or tiring in the ring. You might look good for half the fight and maybe ok for rounds 7 or 8, but you can’t be taking flush counter shots from Floyd on a1/4 tank of gas. If Mayweather was such a powerpuff puncher, fighters would have just charged towards him non-stop. Punching zaps strength. Missing zaps strength. Clinching/holding/wrestling for a better position zaps strength.

To say Mayweather would have 10 losses is a stretch as well. If he HAD faced Thurman and beat him, you’d just be hanging your hat on Paul Williams…or Margarito…or God knows who else. Floyd is the prime victim of “moving the goal post”.

[travestyny]

We already been down this road ad nauseum.

Myself and others put up all the proof and backup for years and you still don't accept it. Keep asking the same bs questions.

You can't blame me for you not wanting to provide any proof. What kind of warped argument is that

I've proven everything I've stated with video evidence and links to the information. You're just posting based on emotion. The truth shouldn't hurt you so much. Get over it.