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Could Roberto Duran have beaten Tommy Hearns in a rematch?

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    #11
    Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
    I'm curious to know what makes you think that Duran could make the 'necessary adjustments'?

    IMO Hearns wins this matchup 10 times out of 10.
    If Hearns starts early like he did against Duran there aint no way Duran will get past 3, he couldnt get on the inside at all either, heres a little clip of Hagler and Hearns trash talking and talking about the Duran fight.

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      #12
      I'd say it was just a bad style match-up. Hearns was too big size-wise and too big of a puncher for Duran. He might've adapted more to his style but I'd still see him losing.

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        #13
        Originally posted by 1SILVA View Post
        In the history of boxing, how often did a man who got totally annihilated in two rounds or less win the rematch? Only chance Duran had of beating Hearns was if they allowed him to fight with a weapon. If they fight 10 times, Hearns knocks him out ten times.
        it can happen pep got put away in 4 rounds by saddler and came back to out box sandy in the rematch and win on points

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          #14
          Originally posted by 1SILVA View Post
          In the history of boxing, how often did a man who got totally annihilated in two rounds or less win the rematch? Only chance Duran had of beating Hearns was if they allowed him to fight with a weapon. If they fight 10 times, Hearns knocks him out ten times.
          Lewis v McCall
          Dempsey v Flynn
          Bob Montgomery v Mouzon
          Archie Moore v Morrow
          Etc etc
          Sorry Silva couldn't resist

          You make a good point though, I would point out that no one could have got more of a career ending/ruining sustained beating than Tunney got in the 1st Greb fight yet came back with great success.
          Sometimes getting caught early and blasted out happens, you get caught with one and everything else is inevitable.
          Remember Duran is an ATG and as such these guys are great problems solvers, like I said earlier I heavily favour Hearns in this bad stylistic match up for Duran but I can't see Hearns winning ten out of ten against a focused conditioned Duran to be honest.

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            #15
            Ha ha, some classic examples there GJC.

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              #16
              Duran apologists will claim that Duran was out of shape and not motivated to fight one of the best and biggest stars in boxing at the time,and yet he was motivated enough to poke a green Davey Moore in the eye.


              It was the coming out party for the "hitman" who had been criticised for his lack of devestating inishes since Leonard had finished him in their showdown.

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                #17
                lol hell no he got poleaxed.........thats like saying hatton could beat pacquiao in a rematch.......

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by gjc View Post
                  lewis v mccall
                  dempsey v flynn
                  bob montgomery v mouzon
                  archie moore v morrow
                  etc etc
                  sorry silva couldn't resist

                  you make a good point though, i would point out that no one could have got more of a career ending/ruining sustained beating than tunney got in the 1st greb fight yet came back with great success.
                  Sometimes getting caught early and blasted out happens, you get caught with one and everything else is inevitable.
                  Remember duran is an atg and as such these guys are great problems solvers, like i said earlier i heavily favour hearns in this bad stylistic match up for duran but i can't see hearns winning ten out of ten against a focused conditioned duran to be honest.
                  excellent point you make, but unless duran attempts to box hearns, and no one outboxed hearns, then his chances would be very slim. Duran needs a lucky sunday punch, and at 154 and 160, duran was no one punch ko artist. Like you said, this is a bad stylistic matchup for duran.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by joey giardello View Post
                    it can happen pep got put away in 4 rounds by saddler and came back to out box sandy in the rematch and win on points
                    yes, but pep was a master boxer and got beat twice more by saddler in returns. Duran in no way is going to outbox hitman

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by donkim View Post
                      duran apologists will claim that duran was out of shape and not motivated to fight one of the best and biggest stars in boxing at the time,and yet he was motivated enough to poke a green davey moore in the eye.


                      It was the coming out party for the "hitman" who had been criticised for his lack of devestating inishes since leonard had finished him in their showdown.
                      i don't see how duran could be out of shape, he made the 154 pound limit weight for the fight and was paid alot of money, plus in his previous bout he gave hagler a very tough fight. I agree with you, duran being out of shape is bs

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