Salvador sanchez was the best fighter ever

[chrisJS]

The man had cleared out his division at age 23. If he had gone up in weight through the 80s and beaten guys like Arguello and JCC I don't know if anyone could deny he was the GOAT. Unfortunately he didn't so I can't call him the best ever.

He'd have to have beaten Pedroza to have cleaned it out and IMO that's close to a 50/50 fight. Pedroza had the height and reach on Sanchez and also like Sal was a 15 round fighter. He was so rough and tough inside too. That fight would have been very troublesome from a stylistic point of view for Sal IMO.

[chrisJS]

Sanchez is on my personal Mount Rushmore of all-time favorite fighters (Marquez, Jofre, Trinidad, Sanchez) but I'm realistic enough to know his ceiling wasn't GOAT or that he wasn't the best ever featherweight. I don't think there's a case for him being top 3 realistically.

He was excellent though. Good (not great) puncher, intelligence beyond his years, stamina, poise, excellent at feinting, countering and he had a rock for a chin. He's a tough out for most. His future maybe would have included fights with Pedroza, Arguello and Chavez, possibly Camacho (which could have been a style nightmare). It would have been interesting to see his style vs. bigger, stronger guys. Slick, fast guys could give him trouble like Castillo, Ford, Cowdell. If he's moving up fighting styles like that it's possible he looks more vulnerable. The thing with Sal though is that he was a winner. You got the feel he excelled best at simply winning.

I had a conversation once with Nacho Beristain and he was not complimentary at all regarding Sanchez to the point it felt like he must have had some personal vendetta. We were talking the greatest Mexican fighters and he said "Marquez, Chavez, Olivares, Zarate, Roman" and I said, "What about Sanchez?", he pulled a face and said, "He's maybe top 10-12. He had horrible technique and beat guys because he was bigger than them" and I asked if he felt he would have gone on to even bigger things he said, "He was already on the way down. He'd hit his peak and was regressing and was going to lose anytime". I didn't agree with him but I did get the sense that Sanchez probably had hit his peak and the youth, size and speed he had really benefited him to that point. I think some of those strengths would have gone away if he'd outgrown 126 and like I said I think Pedroza is a mess stylistically and a 50/50 fight for him. Sanchez was phenomenal when a guy came head on but if they offered movement he was taken out of his comfort zone and made to look human.

I love Sanchez like I said but I think his early death has added tremendously to his legacy. His technique wasn't as perfect as people try to remember (he would slap a lot and didn't throw beautiful punches) nor was he a huge power puncher or an unbeatable force. He was a great fighter though and sometimes that's good enough. On my personal lists of all-time greats I'd say he's #4 or 5 at 126, he's #4 of all-time from Mexico and IMO would rank somewhere around 60 all-time pound for pound. Like I said tremendous fighter but I feel he's been romanticized a little too much.

[NChristo]

Sanchez is on my personal Mount Rushmore of all-time favorite fighters (Marquez, Jofre, Trinidad, Sanchez) but I'm realistic enough to know his ceiling wasn't GOAT or that he wasn't the best ever featherweight. I don't think there's a case for him being top 3 realistically.

He was excellent though. Good (not great) puncher, intelligence beyond his years, stamina, poise, excellent at feinting, countering and he had a rock for a chin. He's a tough out for most. His future maybe would have included fights with Pedroza, Arguello and Chavez, possibly Camacho (which could have been a style nightmare). It would have been interesting to see his style vs. bigger, stronger guys. Slick, fast guys could give him trouble like Castillo, Ford, Cowdell. If he's moving up fighting styles like that it's possible he looks more vulnerable. The thing with Sal though is that he was a winner. You got the feel he excelled best at simply winning.

I had a conversation once with Nacho Beristain and he was not complimentary at all regarding Sanchez to the point it felt like he must have had some personal vendetta. We were talking the greatest Mexican fighters and he said "Marquez, Chavez, Olivares, Zarate, Roman" and I said, "What about Sanchez?", he pulled a face and said, "He's maybe top 10-12. He had horrible technique and beat guys because he was bigger than them" and I asked if he felt he would have gone on to even bigger things he said, "He was already on the way down. He'd hit his peak and was regressing and was going to lose anytime". I didn't agree with him but I did get the sense that Sanchez probably had hit his peak and the youth, size and speed he had really benefited him to that point. I think some of those strengths would have gone away if he'd outgrown 126 and like I said I think Pedroza is a mess stylistically and a 50/50 fight for him. Sanchez was phenomenal when a guy came head on but if they offered movement he was taken out of his comfort zone and made to look human.

I love Sanchez like I said but I think his early death has added tremendously to his legacy. His technique wasn't as perfect as people try to remember (he would slap a lot and didn't throw beautiful punches) nor was he a huge power puncher or an unbeatable force. He was a great fighter though and sometimes that's good enough. On my personal lists of all-time greats I'd say he's #4 or 5 at 126, he's #4 of all-time from Mexico and IMO would rank somewhere around 60 all-time pound for pound. Like I said tremendous fighter but I feel he's been romanticized a little too much.

Saldivar or Sanchez, who would you take as the greater boxer ?.
There's really not much between them but Saldivar has become so underrated / forgotten about and Sanchez is maybe overrated, I'd have him either with Sanchez or higher, for me anyway. H2H is tricky, would need more time to think about it.

[chrisJS]

Saldivar or Sanchez, who would you take as the greater boxer ?.
There's really not much between them but Saldivar has become so underrated / forgotten about and Sanchez is maybe overrated, I'd have him either with Sanchez or higher, for me anyway. H2H is tricky, would need more time to think about it.

That is very difficult. I know quite a few who've really done their full research and they favor Saldivar both head-to-head and in the divisional rankings. I think it's very, very close but I give a slight edge to Sanchez. It would be a hell of a hard fight because Saldivar was also intelligent and excellent over 15-rounds.

Saldivar IMO probably deserved to lose to Laguna but beat an excellent trio of featherweights in Legra, Famechon and Winstone X3. He also pummeled Ramos. These fighters don't have the cache and name of Lopez, Gomez and Nelson but it can be argued that the versions of them which Saldivar defeated were just about on par with the versions Sal beat. Saldivar's early DQ loss was avenged and there's no shame in losing to Jofre and I'm not sure the Shibata loss is all that bad either.

It's really, really close. Sanchez died in his prime, Saldivar retired in his.

[Zaroku]

If he wouldnt have died in that carwreck imagine what he would have done

I agree, but I�m highly biased and Sanchez was my hero!

[OctoberRed]

A great fighter no doubt, but can't agree that he was the greatest fighter ever

[QueensburyRules]

A great fighter no doubt, but can't agree that he was the greatest fighter ever

- -Save for 23 yr old Mike Tyson and perhaps arguably Wilfedo Gomez, Sal is definitely the best 23 yr old in history.

We can moan about what ifs, but my impression Sal was smarter than boxing and preparing his exit for his medical studies.

[Mexican_Puppet]

He was a monster

And he was getting better and better

He was better than Ch�vez

And he did a lot of things with just 23 years old

[Mexican_Puppet]

Sanchez is on my personal Mount Rushmore of all-time favorite fighters (Marquez, Jofre, Trinidad, Sanchez) but I'm realistic enough to know his ceiling wasn't GOAT or that he wasn't the best ever featherweight. I don't think there's a case for him being top 3 realistically.

He was excellent though. Good (not great) puncher, intelligence beyond his years, stamina, poise, excellent at feinting, countering and he had a rock for a chin. He's a tough out for most. His future maybe would have included fights with Pedroza, Arguello and Chavez, possibly Camacho (which could have been a style nightmare). It would have been interesting to see his style vs. bigger, stronger guys. Slick, fast guys could give him trouble like Castillo, Ford, Cowdell. If he's moving up fighting styles like that it's possible he looks more vulnerable. The thing with Sal though is that he was a winner. You got the feel he excelled best at simply winning.

I had a conversation once with Nacho Beristain and he was not complimentary at all regarding Sanchez to the point it felt like he must have had some personal vendetta. We were talking the greatest Mexican fighters and he said "Marquez, Chavez, Olivares, Zarate, Roman" and I said, "What about Sanchez?", he pulled a face and said, "He's maybe top 10-12. He had horrible technique and beat guys because he was bigger than them" and I asked if he felt he would have gone on to even bigger things he said, "He was already on the way down. He'd hit his peak and was regressing and was going to lose anytime". I didn't agree with him but I did get the sense that Sanchez probably had hit his peak and the youth, size and speed he had really benefited him to that point. I think some of those strengths would have gone away if he'd outgrown 126 and like I said I think Pedroza is a mess stylistically and a 50/50 fight for him. Sanchez was phenomenal when a guy came head on but if they offered movement he was taken out of his comfort zone and made to look human.

I love Sanchez like I said but I think his early death has added tremendously to his legacy. His technique wasn't as perfect as people try to remember (he would slap a lot and didn't throw beautiful punches) nor was he a huge power puncher or an unbeatable force. He was a great fighter though and sometimes that's good enough. On my personal lists of all-time greats I'd say he's #4 or 5 at 126, he's #4 of all-time from Mexico and IMO would rank somewhere around 60 all-time pound for pound. Like I said tremendous fighter but I feel he's been romanticized a little too much.

This guy is a mexican hater and a lier

He was talking with Nacho Beristain?


But he can't write two words in spanish

(Beristain can't talk or understand English).

Lol

He said that Ch�vez was overrated

That S�nchez is not in the top-ten of best latinamerican fighters


That Ch�vez lost against LaPorte, Lockridge and Taylor was robbed


He thinks that Pacquiao lost all the fights against Marquez (i'm mexican and a great fan of JMM and that was ******, he Lost the second and the first fight was a good Draw).


He is a crazy guy that does not know anything about boxing and is a mexican hater

He said that Canelo is not an �lite.fighter

And that GGG is not on the top-20 of best 160 ever

Hahahah

[Mexican_Puppet]

Salvador Sanchez went 4-0 with 4 ko's vs hof fighters and he didn't even grow into his man body yet.. Let that sink in.

But look what that jerk Chris is saying hahahaha