Does AJ deserve to be a more chrerished boxer in Britain than either Lennox or Bruno?

[BKM-]

That picture was taken before 1984 most likely, so Lennox Lewis was literally a child. 'Joshua in those pictures is pretty much a man' Joshua has put muscle upon muscle, he has not grown as much as Lennox Lewis did in comparison to that photograph etc

Even in 1984, you can still see how much bigger Lennox Lewis's frame is naturally 'And he is only a kid there'.

I am aware that the video is no longer available, will look for a new one.

Probably during puberty, but no he was a narrow stick like AJ, probably right before he started using steroids(and no shame, I am one of the few who is realistic about pretty much all boxers using PED's in that era.)



This is a couple of years later. Definitely a bigger frame than AJ who probably took double the doses Lewis took and probably all kinds of stuff not available yet in the 80s and 90s.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Probably during puberty, but no he was a narrow stick like AJ, probably right before he started using steroids(and no shame, I am one of the few who is realistic about pretty much all boxers using PED's in that era.)



This is a couple of years later. Definitely a bigger frame than AJ who probably took double the doses Lewis took and probably all kinds of stuff not available yet in the 80s and 90s.

Look at what happens to most body builders in their 50's even though they carry on training post retirement, they fall to pieces. Very few heavyweights from the 90's have suffered these same consequences, because I honestly believe most of them where clean athletes. 'There are tell tail physiological signs of a athlete using steroids, and it is more evident when they stop and retire' Lennox Lewis does not train, and he is still a solid and healthy man into his 50's, the same goes for Evander Holyield 'Mike Tyson abuses his body, but is still fairly rugged'.

Body builders fall apart completely, because that is what steroids do to your body long term 'Very low to just tarnish fighters careers because, you probably do not possess any will
power yourself mate' Very weak and feeble mentality you are displaying here BKM.

[QueensburyRules]

Probably during puberty, but no he was a narrow stick like AJ, probably right before he started using steroids(and no shame, I am one of the few who is realistic about pretty much all boxers using PED's in that era.)



This is a couple of years later. Definitely a bigger frame than AJ who probably took double the doses Lewis took and probably all kinds of stuff not available yet in the 80s and 90s.

- -Sorry to hear about your PED/Viagra addictions. Get help!

[QueensburyRules]

Joshua has a natural smaller more petite bone structure in comparison to Lennox Lewis. 'During the 90's, america was still a giant in the heavyweight division' so fighters such as Bruno & Lewis who courageously tackled the america's will probably always get more respect than Anthony Joshua.

But that can soon change providing he unifies all the heavyweight titles.

- -AJ already passed up Lewis who barely had any fans but made a lifetime of whining about it.

Henry Cooper and Frank Bruno had the hearts of Brit common folk everywhere in spite of copious flaws. Lewis had all the flaws and about as lovable as scrubbing a toilet.

[BKM-]

Look at what happens to most body builders in their 50's even though they carry on training post retirement, they fall to pieces. Very few heavyweights from the 90's have suffered these same consequences, because I honestly believe most of them where clean athletes. 'There are tell tail physiological signs of a athlete using steroids, and it is more evident when they stop and retire' Lennox Lewis does not train, and he is still a solid and healthy man into his 50's, the same goes for Evander Holyield 'Mike Tyson abuses his body, but is still fairly rugged'.

Body builders fall apart completely, because that is what steroids do to your body long term 'Very low to just tarnish fighters careers because, you probably do not possess any will
power yourself mate' Very weak and feeble mentality you are displaying here BKM.

You've always been one of the most naive posters on here, it's always a huge culture shock to you when I tell you the reality about your childhood hero's and your preconceived notions about them. They were all using PED's from atleast the 60s onwards. Some more than others. Yes even Tyson the guy you think had too high morals to take PED's even though he beat 7 hookers unconcious, used his wife as a speed bag and then ****d a beauty pagent.

Your argument is child-like here. You're comparing boxers to the most drugged up 'athletes' in the world? Boxers just need enough PED's to quickly recover from all the brutal training, some go further and use it to gain size, endurance etc. But Mr. Olympia bodybuilders take so much roids, hgh, insulin etc. just enough that they don't drop dead although some do. Some of them are even what you described as "healthy". Lee Haney is fine in his 60s. Dorian Yates is doing good in his 50s. I could go on.

[PRINCEKOOL]

You've always been one of the most naive posters on here, it's always a huge culture shock to you when I tell you the reality about your childhood hero's and your preconceived notions about them. They were all using PED's from atleast the 60s onwards. Some more than others. Yes even Tyson the guy you think had too high morals to take PED's even though he beat 7 hookers unconcious, used his wife as a speed bag and then ****d a beauty pagent.

Your argument is child-like here. You're comparing boxers to the most drugged up 'athletes' in the world? Boxers just need enough PED's to quickly recover from all the brutal training, some go further and use it to gain size, endurance etc. But Mr. Olympia bodybuilders take so much roids, hgh, insulin etc. just enough that they don't drop dead although some do. Some of them are even what you described as "healthy". Lee Haney is fine in his 60s. Dorian Yates is doing good in his 50s. I could go on.

Most of them body builders are probably still training like crazy, taking steroids or pumping themselves full of all the latest supplements 'Just to maintain a certain level of fitness'. In comparison to other retire athletes, body builders completely fall apart, look at Ronnie Coleman etc You do not see this generalized fall out with retired boxers, even though most of them in retirement? Do not train, and just basically go back to living a somewhat average lifestyles.

I am saying that is very weak of you to tarnish a athletes entire career, just because you cannot conceive/conceptualize that? A athlete could dedicate or have the raw talent to achieve such feats 'It is a weak and feeble mindset'.

You are responding to me as if I have said something wrong morally, I am just pointing out where you need to readdress your behavior for the better'.

Yes there are drug cheats in all sports, but if boxers of the 90's where so deeply entrenched in performance enhancing drugs, we would be seeing the fall out effects of that now 'But that is not happening, SO you need to stop generalizing and tarnishing athletes careers.

Note: I have no real issue with body builders, as I admire their mentality within the sport. Tom Platz, Shawn Ray, Lee Haney, Kevin Levrone interesting personalities.

[BKM-]

Most of them body builders are probably still training like crazy, taking steroids or pumping themselves full of all the latest supplements 'Just to maintain a certain level of fitness'. In comparison to other retire athletes, body builders completely fall apart, look at Ronnie Coleman etc You do not see this generalized fall out with retired boxers, even though most of them in retirement? Do not train, and just basically go back to living a somewhat average lifestyles.

I am saying that is very weak of you to tarnish a athletes entire career, just because you cannot conceive/conceptualize that? A athlete could dedicate or have the raw talent to achieve such feats 'It is a weak and feeble mindset'.

You are responding to me as if I have said something wrong morally, I am just pointing out where you need to readdress your behavior for the better'.

Yes there are drug cheats in all sports, but if boxers of the 90's where so deeply entrenched in performance enhancing drugs, we would be seeing the fall out effects of that now 'But that is not happening, SO you need to stop generalizing and tarnishing athletes careers.

Note: I have no real issue with body builders, as I admire their mentality within the sport. Tom Platz, Shawn Ray, Lee Haney, Kevin Levrone interesting personalities.

You mentioned one bodybuilder vs the two I mentioned who are still thriving. You just googled a couple of names to sound like you know what you're talking about. You don't, and you shouldn't have even brought up pro bodybuilders because as I explained in my previous post, the two cannot be compared. It went over your tiny head as usual.

Boxers are an absolute mess after retirement most of the time. CTE will ruin your motor skills so even if the steroids haven't ruined the boxers' major organs yet, they won't have the psychical ability to train and stay fit.

I wasn't tarnishing their legacies by bringing up the fact that they all took PED's, because I don't see it as cheating. Everybody took it, so it was an even playing field for the most part. It is impossible to put the human body through that kind of brutal training and still look like them. I'm not a child like you, I have a brain with which I can use to easily spot this. You can't be like these people without chemical help, I hate to break it to you kid.

In fact I appriciate that they used the drugs because it made them better, more entertaining fighters. I am against drug testing in pro sports. The hell would I care about their health for? They're grown men who make their own choices.

[PRINCEKOOL]

You mentioned one bodybuilder vs the two I mentioned who are still thriving. You just googled a couple of names to sound like you know what you're talking about. You don't, and you shouldn't have even brought up pro bodybuilders because as I explained in my previous post, the two cannot be compared. It went over your tiny head as usual.

Boxers are an absolute mess after retirement most of the time. CTE will ruin your motor skills so even if the steroids haven't ruined the boxers' major organs yet, they won't have the psychical ability to train and stay fit.

I wasn't tarnishing their legacies by bringing up the fact that they all took PED's, because I don't see it as cheating. Everybody took it, so it was an even playing field for the most part. It is impossible to put the human body through that kind of brutal training and still look like them. I'm not a child like you, I have a brain with which I can use to easily spot this. You can't be like these people without chemical help, I hate to break it to you kid.

In fact I appriciate that they used the drugs because it made them better, more entertaining fighters. I am against drug testing in pro sports. The hell would I care about their health for? They're grown men who make their own choices.

I still see that you are refusing to lose, the weak and feeble mind set 'Regarding generalizing that all successful athletes are using performance enhancing drugs etc'

A lot of body builders fall apart after their careers, this is no mystery 'They are not taking blows to the head or competing in a sport where your opponent? Literally has a licences to kill. So by you highlighting some of the complications retired fighters have such as brain trauma or motor skill issues 'That is totally irrelevant to this discussion' and proves nothing.

I sense that you come from that type of environment I.E a environment where people take steroids, before actually attempting to dedicated and put in effort 'That is why you have this perception of reality, a weak and feeble perception'.

I am not stating that a average Joe off the street can achieve such feats, but that is precisely what I am emphasizing. These Olympic athletes or professional boxers are not normal people, in terms of will power, dedication or raw talent. 'And only ignorant people will dismiss these variables, and tarnish their careers completely'

[BKM-]

A lot of body builders fall apart after their careers, this is no mystery 'They are not taking blows to the head or competing in a sport where your opponent? Literally has a licences to kill. So by you highlighting some of the complications retired fighters have such as brain trauma or motor skill issues 'That is totally irrelevant to this discussion' and proves nothing.

It proves that you were full of **** when you claimed that boxers are doing fine after retirement.

I sense that you come from that type of environment I.E a environment where people take steroids, before actually attempting to dedicated and put in effort 'That is why you have this perception of reality, a weak and feeble perception'.

I come from an environment where BS is not tolerated, and I was not taught to be a naive child like you who refuses to see the reality that a guy like Tyson, who is ripped at 220lbs-5'10 with capped delts, vascular thick muscles when 1-He does no weight lifting, 2-Almost all of his training is cardio based and he did an inhuman amount of it that nobody can recover from without PED help.

You refuse to accept this reality because you can't accept that human bodies have natural limitations. I can picture it right now, you looking at these PED bodies and thinking "man that could be me as long as i work hard at it, right?" LOL.

I am not stating that a average Joe off the street can achieve such feats, but that is precisely what I am emphasizing. These Olympic athletes or professional boxers are not normal people, in terms if will power, dedication or raw talent. 'And only ignorant people will dismiss these variables, and tarnish their careers completely

Exactly, so if an average joe like you took the amount of PED's that they took you would have above average physical attributes but still less than them. How does that prove anything you just stated?

How old are you exactly? You still have cartoons on your av and seem to have a childish mentality still. Just curious, what's the number.

[QueensburyRules]

It proves that you were full of **** when you claimed that boxers are doing fine after retirement.



I come from an environment where BS is not tolerated, and I was not taught to be a naive child like you who refuses to see the reality that a guy like Tyson, who is ripped at 220lbs-5'10 with capped delts, vascular thick muscles when 1-He does no weight lifting, 2-Almost all of his training is cardio based and he did an inhuman amount of it that nobody can recover from without PED help.

You refuse to accept this reality because you can't accept that human bodies have natural limitations. I can picture it right now, you looking at these PED bodies and thinking "man that could be me as long as i work hard at it, right?" LOL.



Exactly, so if an average joe like you took the amount of PED's that they took you would have above average physical attributes but still less than them. How does that prove anything you just stated?

How old are you exactly? You still have cartoons on your av and seem to have a childish mentality still. Just curious, what's the number.

- -When U stop doing PEDs?