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Will GGGs "title" defense "record" be rescinded now that WBA ruled? Or does that not count?

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    #21
    His first real title defense (not "interim" or "Regular") came against Rosado to take his record to 25-0.

    I have never considered any Interim or Regular belts to be real. When he fought against Rosado he defended the full version of the WBA title for the first time, so that's when his reign fully began for me.

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      #22
      Originally posted by GypsyTRAIN View Post

      HBO themselves - GGGs personal hype machine - scored it for Jacobs.

      It was a very, very close fight and Danny landed the better shots.

      GGG also lost to Canelo in the rematch but you're mouth is too full of ****** di ck to understand
      No, Lederman had it 6-6. Which would have gone to GGG. Rather inexplicably, he gave Jacobs the first 2 rounds, when they were pretty clearly - a slight nick to GGG in round 1, and then a slight edge to Danny in a 50/50 round 2. The judges all had the fight virtually the same way, over after 9 rounds.

      Danny won round 10, and then 11 was close (as was 7) and 12 didn't really matter since it was over by then, but GGG probably won that too. 12th rounds are generally hard for me to score because they are all effort and a lot of times they don't really matter.

      Danny landed about 50 fewer shots and got KD. People trying to make that fight into a win for him, it's pathetic honestly. But look at the way you post and talk, I'm sure you are pathetic in real life.

      Canelo wasn't active enough in either GGG fight to make a claim of winning. He had good close rounds for about half of the fight, and then got outworked the other half. GGG isn't ****** either, not that that matters at all when evaluating who wins a fight.

      Sounds like you're focusing on the wrong things when scoring!

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        #23
        Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post

        No, Lederman had it 6-6. Which would have gone to GGG. Rather inexplicably, he gave Jacobs the first 2 rounds, when they were pretty clearly - a slight nick to GGG in round 1, and then a slight edge to Danny in a 50/50 round 2. The judges all had the fight virtually the same way, over after 9 rounds.

        Danny won round 10, and then 11 was close (as was 7) and 12 didn't really matter since it was over by then, but GGG probably won that too. 12th rounds are generally hard for me to score because they are all effort and a lot of times they don't really matter.

        Danny landed about 50 fewer shots and got KD. People trying to make that fight into a win for him, it's pathetic honestly. But look at the way you post and talk, I'm sure you are pathetic in real life.

        Canelo wasn't active enough in either GGG fight to make a claim of winning. He had good close rounds for about half of the fight, and then got outworked the other half. GGG isn't ****** either, not that that matters at all when evaluating who wins a fight.

        Sounds like you're focusing on the wrong things when scoring!
        Boxingscene had it 114-113 BORAT
        CBSsports had it 114-114
        BadLeftHook had it 114-113 BORAT
        SportingNews had it 115-112 JACOBS
        Forbes had it 115-112 JACOBS

        Etc. etc. etc.

        Ca$hnelo and Jacobs and Sergeiy beat Borat LOL

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          #24
          Originally posted by GypsyTRAIN View Post

          Boxingscene had it 114-113 BORAT
          CBSsports had it 114-114
          BadLeftHook had it 114-113 BORAT
          SportingNews had it 115-112 JACOBS
          Forbes had it 115-112 JACOBS

          Etc. etc. etc.

          Ca$hnelo and Jacobs and Sergeiy beat Borat LOL
          So 2 fanboys have no business scoring fights and gave Jacobs 8 rounds? Lol cool.

          With names like Cashnelo and Borat, your opinion on who won etc in boxing is meaningless. Have a good day lil fella

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            #25
            Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post

            So 2 fanboys have no business scoring fights and gave Jacobs 8 rounds? Lol cool.
            Forbes, and Sporting News, and British commentators, and Mexican commentators, and HBO all saw Golovkin not beating Jacobs.

            But go ahead and dismiss them all if it doesn't support your agenda.

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              #26
              I don't understand the point being made here, the WBAs ruling is regarding interim champions not World champions. It shouldn't have a bearing however you choose to count GGGs title defense record (I personally consider him to have 15 consecutive defenses as a sole or primary Champion from any sanctioning body or 14 as the sole or primary WBA champion)

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                #27
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

                Forbes, and Sporting News, and British commentators, and Mexican commentators, and HBO all saw Golovkin not beating Jacobs.

                But go ahead and dismiss them all if it doesn't support your agenda.
                I already addressed in some detail why a lot of people end up having somewhat terrible opinions on fights and fighters. Anyone scoring that fight for Danny, is just a terrible opinion of which there are many in boxing and many in the world overall.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by kushking View Post

                  Nope this is completely incorrect,go to boxrec & count the fights,a NC is not the same as a draw also.

                  Ggg was the regular"champ" to Sturms Super champion (super is the real title)

                  You can flip it however you want to but the fact remains that ggg was only the jr beltholder for 15 of the 20,& he didn't even defend the WBA 20 times consecutively,as the WBA refused to sanction the Brook mismatch.

                  To top it off the record is for title defenses which means ggg only ties the record if you count Tapia as a title defense(which would mean Bhop had 21 defenses if you count that)
                  No Hopkins 20 Defenses include the NC. He also

                  Golovkin was already the Full WBA Champion in the Tapia fight so it counts in the 20 defenses.

                  Golovkin wasn't a "Regular" Champion because it wasn't a distinction at the time because Strum was didn't actually meet the requirements of being WBA Super Champion.

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                    #29
                    GGG wasn't considered the true champ even then. Revisionists tried to turn around and claim he was the dominant middleweight for a decade or whatever, when in reality he was an afterthought fighting low tier guys on the sidelines for much of his career.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by SilverMiles View Post

                      No Hopkins 20 Defenses include the NC. He also

                      Golovkin was already the Full WBA Champion in the Tapia fight so it counts in the 20 defenses.

                      Golovkin wasn't a "Regular" Champion because it wasn't a distinction at the time because Strum was didn't actually meet the requirements of being WBA Super Champion.
                      "Didn't meet the requirements" lol,he literally was WBA super champ before ggg got the interim,& was the full champion throughout gggs wba regular run.

                      And while ggg was elevated to Wba regular champ before the tapia fight,it was the WBA regular belt which as this thread is about means he held the belt the WBA says will now be retroactively viewed as #1 contender(because Sturm was the real champ,thats undebatable because he held the super champ belt aka the real belt.)(actually on 2nd thought maybe his belt doesn't count as the ones being rescinded,my bad if im wrong)

                      From gggs Wikipedia:"Golovkin won the WBA middleweight title in 2010 by defeating . The WBA elevated him to status in the same year."
                      Last edited by kushking; 08-26-2021, 10:24 PM.

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