Comments Thread For: Canelo Shoots Down Marquez's Criticism Over Not Facing Benavidez

[Jab jab boom]

You’re just an ass Clown Hater! And you are a Phag!!! Why else would a grown ass man join 3 gyms to hang out in the locker rooms and showers to watch guys change clothes or shower... Probably take pics of them without them even knowing.

I don’t join 3 gyms , but for you non boxing h0m0s who have never sparred, I’ve sparred in more than 1 gym. I gave you 3 gym options so you would have no excuse to back out by saying any 1 location was too far and guess what, you still pussed out. That’s why I value the opinion of real Mexicans like Marquez. Not a wannabe Mexican who’s an emotional tw@t such as yourself.

[War Room]

Marquez said nothing wrong and takes issue with Canelo because he represented Mexican boxing when it was more about fighting the best than making business decisions. Marquez facing pac 4 times and Barrera once, morales facing Barrera 3 times and pac 3 times while Barrera faced morales 3 times, pac twice and morales once are all more risks than Canelo’s entire career combined. He’s qualified to speak on this and it’s not hating when it’s true.

Good post there and I 100% agree.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

Canelo aged GGG and frill should be 1-2 against him. And even the last fight was more about what GGg didn’t do the first half. So when people asked if he is ducking David the answer is yes, hell yes. The WBC helped him gain the bets after David missed weight during COVID hitting camp. It was pathetic and they will hep him duck David now.
The excuses on why he is fighting Ryder and nit David are pathetic and an example of how Canelo isn’t real. These guys are out here making big fights and Canelo is fighting someone no one wants to see him fight except his fancies.

[Shadoww702]

I don’t join 3 gyms , but for you non boxing h0m0s who have never sparred, I’ve sparred in more than 1 gym. I gave you 3 gym options so you would have no excuse to back out by saying any 1 location was too far and guess what, you still pussed out. That’s why I value the opinion of real Mexicans like Marquez. Not a wannabe Mexican who’s an emotional tw@t such as yourself.

Yeah All In NYC because your PO won't let your travel. You spend all your time at the gym in the shower room waiting for some poor unsuspecting guy to walk in and then you act like you dropped the soap and bent over to pick it up with your ass already lubed up.

[archiemoore1]

I’m a big JMM fan but no and no. Marquez, as great as he was, is not better than Canelo. Marquez never proved himself to be the dominant fighter at any weight and, thought he was at a size disadvantage against Floyd, he got absolutely schooled by by him just as Canelo did.

Marquez fought guys in their prime, not guys with names who were over the hill like Shane Mosley, Cotto, Kovalev, smaller guys moving up, like Amir Khan, Euro bums like Avni Yildirim, and Rocky Fielding, slow moving weed smoking Mexicans like Chavez jr and Alfredo Angulo, he tried to wait GGG out until he aged enough then ran like hell from him in the 1st fight, got outboxed and got his eye busted wide open in the 2nd fight, now he's fighting other Euro trash like John Ryder. Under close examination, his whole record has an asterisk. It shows a pattern of carefully selecting fighters based on a perceived weakness of either age or being past their prime, being light punchers or smaller guys moving up, or being Euro bums. The few times he stepped to a real dude in their primes, he lost or had lots of problems- Trout, Lara, Golovkin I, Mayweather, Bivol. Then when u throw in the fact that he used drugs to cheat, and got caught with Clenbuterol in his system, and how he blatantly ducked Boo Boo Andrade, Charlo, and Benavidez for well over a decade, he's not at the top of Mexican boxing history. All the other Mexicans were willing to face anyone and were never known to try and avoid other top guys for years and years. And they weren't juicing. They simply fought and did their best naturally without drugs. For these reasons, Canelo might not even be top 20 Mexicans of all time. I can't put him above Salvador Sanchez, JC Chavez Sr, Ruben Olivarez, Chiquita Gonzalez, Barrera, Erik Morales, JM Marquez, Gilberto Roman, Ricardo Lopez, Kid Azteca, Orlando Canizales, Raton Macias, Miguel Canto, Rodolfo Casanova, Carlos Zarate, Vicente Saldivar, Manuel Ortiz, Carlos Palomino, Sugar Ramos, Mando Ramos, Lupe Pintor, Jose Luis Ramirez, Bobby Chacon, etc. Win lose or draw, these men fought whoever would fight them. They weren't divas on some A- side, B-side BS, weight bullies, etc So u have to rate them higher. Greatness in boxing isn't ever based on how much money a fighter made

[TheOneAboveAll]

Marquez fought guys in their prime, not guys with names who were over the hill like Shane Mosley, Cotto, Kovalev, smaller guys moving up, like Amir Khan, Euro bums like Avni Yildirim, and Rocky Fielding, slow moving weed smoking Mexicans like Chavez jr and Alfredo Angulo, he tried to wait GGG out until he aged enough then ran like hell from him in the 1st fight, got outboxed and got his eye busted wide open in the 2nd fight, now he's fighting other Euro trash like John Ryder. Under close examination, his whole record has an asterisk. It shows a pattern of carefully selecting fighters based on a perceived weakness of either age or being past their prime, being light punchers or smaller guys moving up, or being Euro bums. The few times he stepped to a real dude in their primes, he lost or had lots of problems- Trout, Lara, Golovkin I, Mayweather, Bivol. Then when u throw in the fact that he used drugs to cheat, and got caught with Clenbuterol in his system, and how he blatantly ducked Boo Boo Andrade, Charlo, and Benavidez for well over a decade, he's not at the top of Mexican boxing history. All the other Mexicans were willing to face anyone and were never known to try and avoid other top guys for years and years. And they weren't juicing. They simply fought and did their best naturally without drugs. For these reasons, Canelo might not even be top 20 Mexicans of all time. I can't put him above Salvador Sanchez, JC Chavez Sr, Ruben Olivarez, Chiquita Gonzalez, Barrera, Erik Morales, JM Marquez, Gilberto Roman, Ricardo Lopez, Kid Azteca, Orlando Canizales, Raton Macias, Miguel Canto, Rodolfo Casanova, Carlos Zarate, Vicente Saldivar, Manuel Ortiz, Carlos Palomino, Sugar Ramos, Mando Ramos, Lupe Pintor, Jose Luis Ramirez, Bobby Chacon, etc. Win lose or draw, these men fought whoever would fight them. They weren't divas on some A- side, B-side BS, weight bullies, etc So u have to rate them higher. Greatness in boxing isn't ever based on how much money a fighter made

Jesus, you’re like a scorned ex girlfriend. You’ve lost your mind. Carlos Palomino? Miguel Canto?!? You need pills.

[Jab jab boom]

Yeah All In NYC because your PO won't let your travel. You spend all your time at the gym in the shower room waiting for some poor unsuspecting guy to walk in and then you act like you dropped the soap and bent over to pick it up with your ass already lubed up.

you said you had tickets for Jacobs vs Derveyenchenko and would be in NY and would spar. Then You pussed out like the Phag you are. So you can deflect with all the gay shet you want, but that’s the reality. You’re a wanna be Mexican who’s a pu$$y and you’ll never live that down. I even agreed to your ridiculous request for a catch weight to spar. Lmaooooo fkn clown.

[archiemoore1]

Jesus, you’re like a scorned ex girlfriend. You’ve lost your mind. Carlos Palomino? Miguel Canto?!? You need pills.

Yes, Carlos Palomino, absolutely. He had true 15 round stamina without using drugs and he fought everyone, never avoided anyone or cherry picked. Miguel Canto also never ducked anyone. A fighter who never ducked anyone and never used steroids, must automatically be rated higher than Canelo, because their wins aren't tainted with questions about drug use. You seem to rate Canelo based on his ring earnings, but that just shows how easily u can be bought. I rate integrity over money any day, and boxing is a one on one sport, man to man, no cheating, no drugs, no steroids. No matter how much u accomplish in boxing, if u cheat, there goes ur credibility as a fighter! And if u consistently cherry pick and avoid the toughest competition while fighting well timed and carefully selected safer opponents, that makes u a smart businessman, not a true champion

[TheOneAboveAll]

Yes, Carlos Palomino, absolutely. He had true 15 round stamina without using drugs and he fought everyone, never avoided anyone or cherry picked. Miguel Canto also never ducked anyone. A fighter who never ducked anyone and never used steroids, must automatically be rated higher than Canelo, because their wins aren't tainted with questions about drug use. You seem to rate Canelo based on his ring earnings, but that just shows how easily u can be bought. I rate integrity over money any day, and boxing is a one on one sport, man to man, no cheating, no drugs, no steroids. No matter how much u accomplish in boxing, if u cheat, there goes ur credibility as a fighter! And if u consistently cherry pick and avoid the toughest competition while fighting well timed and carefully selected safer opponents, that makes u a smart businessman, not a true champion

Ring earnings?? Who’s a.ss did you pull that from?

[archiemoore1]

Ring earnings?? Who’s a.ss did you pull that from?

Because ring earnings is all that is left, once u analyze Canelo's career. He was a great earner, but he avoided fighters, he cherry picked and he cheated with drugs. So if not ring earnings, what criteria are u using to rate Canelo compared to the other Mexican greats?