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    #11
    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

    If the rematch ever happens, Usyk gets lion`s share.

    This fight is a pure smoke and mirrors , just like Crawford -Spence. That was also a big fight on a paper. Well, the skeleton of Spence had like zero chance to do anything.

    Fury is unmotivated part time boxer, whose last fight against a contender was Whyte 2 years ago. he is just coming for his retirement money here.
    There are no shares to being with, let along lion's or Dog's or Hyena's. The Saudis negotiate separately and independently with each boxer...which in this case is a two-fight deal. If Fury loses, he has no where to go to make much money. I would be more skeptical if he wins because they he would have options...like go for another exhibition, fight AJ in the UK, or try WWE or some music/movie/etc. But win, lose, or draw, nobody has a better option at this stage than what the Saudis are offering. Saudi is big money that can motivate and change anyone's mind about retiring. And I won't be surprised if Fury's offer for a 2nd fight even after a loss won't rival that of Usyk.

    Fury's retirement drama was simply his tactics to stay in the media while waiting for a few big money fights instead of $10-15m UK fights while risking his undefeated title. You can say he is not motivated for smaller fights.
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      #12
      I think usyk wins. But it will be in rematch which decided who is better, who learnt most from first fight. Whoever wins 2nd fight is just deemed to have had bad day at office in 1st fight.

      Joe Louis better than schmelling, Ray Robinson better than turpin, pac better than morales, bradley and floyd type thing
      Last edited by hugh grant; 05-15-2024, 07:08 AM.

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        #13
        Usyk will school the gypsy fraud.

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          #14
          Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

          This fight is a pure smoke and mirrors , just like Crawford -Spence. That was also a big fight on a paper. Well, the skeleton of Spence had like zero chance to do anything.
          Did you say this about Crawford/Spence before their fight? Or only after?





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            #15
            Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
            Fury is unmotivated part time boxer, whose last fight against a contender was Whyte 2 years ago.
            And he already ****** there, in spite of the post-fight hype.

            Heaven knows if, after having ejaculated while watching De La Hoya hammered by Pacquiao in 2008, I'll also see Usyk doing something similar to Fury (who I used to like after he came back from drugs and depression... but then he started acting so idiotically that I lost him completely).

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              #16
              Originally posted by Kzbox View Post

              What is it with this narrative anybody who dares support Fury over Usyk is automatically labeled a "fanboy" just a sad way to dismiss fans, Crazy how many people are on Usyks **** these days i like the guy but i hope he loses just to shut people up. As for the fight if Fury shows up like he did vs Francis it will be a tough night for him if he shows up in Wilder 2 form i think he stops Usyk.
              I agree.

              Boxing fan opinions are just a way of having a little fun with the sport. As an individual sport, it gets a little personal sounding.
              No dig deal.
              Today's G.O.A.T. is tomorrow's "Overrated Cruiserweight".

              I'm picking Fury by suprisingly wide UD.
              If.... that turns out to be right:

              50 years of Heavyweights. 1974 2024

              (Note: Those highlighted are Active Today)

              1. Muhammad Ali
              2. Lennox Lewis
              3. Larry Holmes
              4. Mike Tyson
              5. George Foreman
              6. Tyson Fury
              7. Wladimir Klitschko
              8. Ken Norton
              9. Joe Frazier
              10. Evander Holyfield
              11. Deontay Wilder
              12. Anthony Joshua
              13. Oleksandr Usyk
              14. Ron Lyle
              15. Vitali Klitschko
              16. Rid**** Bowe
              17. Gerry Cooney
              18. Earnie Shavers
              19. Jimmy Young
              20. Ike Ibeabuchi
              21.Tim Witherspoon
              22. Joseph Parker
              23. Gerrie Coetzee
              24. Andrew Golota
              25. Michael Dokes
              26. David Tua
              27. Alexander Povetkin
              28. Mike Weaver
              29. Frank Bruno
              30. Tommy Morrison



              However, if Usyk slips and speeds his way to winning the Heavyweight title from Fury; then we have to go:

              50 years of Heavyweights. 1974 2024

              (Note: Those highlighted are Active Today)

              1. Muhammad Ali
              2. Lennox Lewis
              3. Larry Holmes
              4. Mike Tyson
              5. George Foreman
              6. Oleksandr Usyk
              7. Wladimir Klitschko
              8. Tyson Fury
              9. Ken Norton
              10. Joe Frazier
              11. Evander Holyfield
              12. Anthony Joshua
              13. Deontay Wilder
              14. Ron Lyle
              15. Vitali Klitschko
              16. Rid**** Bowe
              17. Gerry Cooney
              18. Earnie Shavers
              19. Jimmy Young
              20. Ike Ibeabuchi
              21. Tim Witherspoon
              22. Joseph Parker
              23. Gerrie Coetzee
              24. Andrew Golota
              25. Michael Dokes
              26. David Tua
              27. Alexander Povetkin
              28. Mike Weaver
              29. Frank Bruno
              30. Tommy Morrison
              Last edited by Willow The Wisp; 05-15-2024, 10:06 AM.
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                #17
                Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
                Fury is not a boxer anymore, the only reason he is coming are 100 + millions he will get for this fight.

                Usyk will absolutely embarrass him and Fury will likely retire. He won`t even take a rematch.

                Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

                If the rematch ever happens, Usyk gets lion`s share.

                This fight is a pure smoke and mirrors , just like Crawford -Spence. That was also a big fight on a paper. Well, the skeleton of Spence had like zero chance to do anything.

                Fury is unmotivated part time boxer, whose last fight against a contender was Whyte 2 years ago. he is just coming for his retirement money here.

                This is very plausible tbf. Hindsight is 20/20 and we could all be looking back thinking "the signs were there in the Ngannou fight. Nearly 36 years old. Some grueling fights. Ballooning up in weight. Drugs. Alcohol etc"​

                The thing with Fury though is that he is unpredictable. His performances are inconsistent and he has proven people wrong before.
                Last edited by Apollo7; 05-15-2024, 02:02 PM.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by denium View Post
                  Like i said in another thread, when Fury wins, there's going to be lot of butthurt, and I'm here for it.

                  Expect the usual excuses, "Fury cheated" "Fury was too big" "Usyk was never a real heavyweight" "Fury put a gypsy curse on him"

                  Then JakeTheBellend will make a new thread - "Fury isn't really undisputed, he needs to fight Frank Sanchez"
                  You went into hiding for months after the Ngannou fight and are weaksauce enough to use the block function. Soft.
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                    #19
                    I think Fury will win this fairly comfortably. Tyson obviously took Usyk seriously. He clearly put in the work for this fight. Good big man versus good small man.
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Kzbox View Post

                      What is it with this narrative anybody who dares support Fury over Usyk is automatically labeled a "fanboy" just a sad way to dismiss fans, Crazy how many people are on Usyks **** these days i like the guy but i hope he loses just to shut people up. As for the fight if Fury shows up like he did vs Francis it will be a tough night for him if he shows up in Wilder 2 form i think he stops Usyk.
                      Well, we already know he's not Wilder 2 form. He looks leaner than ever where as against Wilder in their rematch, I think he ballooned up to around 285lbs. The weight really helped him put the beatdown on Wilder and just bully the skinnier guy around. For me, Fury looking as leaner than ever makes me think he's going to try and outbox Usyk when in reality, he may have given up one of his best assets in coming in huge and bullying around the smaller guy. He just may have leveled the playing field by coming further down towards Usyk's weight.

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