Comments Thread For: Who should be next for Oleksandr Usyk? BoxingScenes team weighs in

[SUBZER0ED]

It’s irrelevant if the body shot was low or not. The referee called it low and the fighter took his time time to recover then continued a one sided beatdown until his opponent quit.

It's irrelevant to you, but not to the fighter who worked his ass off to get where he is in this brutal sport. And Usyk's win certainly doesn't equate that Dubois doesn't deserve another shot, especially given that he currently holds a belt. To not support a unification rematch is to not support the sport.

[Ropeydope]

It's irrelevant to you, but not to the fighter who worked his ass off to get where he is in this brutal sport. And Usyk's win certainly doesn't equate that Dubois doesn't deserve another shot, especially given that he currently holds a belt. To not support a unification rematch is to not support the sport.

Dubois strayed low several times up to that moment. I agreed with the ref’s decision to call it low, and Usyk’s decision to take as much time as he needed before resuming. It is irrelevant because the ref made his call and the fight resumed being a one sided beatdown as before that moment. The excuses about that low blow call don’t erase how mismatched the fight appeared.

I just think if Usyk is only going to fight a few more times at HW I’d rather see those other guys get a crack at him.

This discussion will probably be moot after Dubois goes up against Parker.

[SUBZER0ED]

Dubois strayed low several times up to that moment. I agreed with the ref’s decision to call it low, and Usyk’s decision to take as much time as he needed before resuming. It is irrelevant because the ref made his call and the fight resumed being a one sided beatdown as before that moment. The excuses about that low blow call don’t erase how mismatched the fight appeared.

I just think if Usyk is only going to fight a few more times at HW I’d rather see those other guys get a crack at him.

This discussion will probably be moot after Dubois goes up against Parker.

The Dubois vs Parker fight is intriguing. It should show where each fighter is in their development. If Dubois wins, I think he absolutely should get another crack at Usyk. The fact that Oleksandr was forced to vacate his IBF belt to Dubois should be incentive to face him again to get it back. Have you ever considered why Daniel was awarded the belt, instead of some of these other guys that you speak of? If Usyk declines to rematch him, it will be seen as a duck by some.

[ELPacman]

Boxing is an interesting sport in that there is no end game. Fans or haters will always call for 1 more fight, especially if they're undefeated to see if they can finally collect that loss. Now, I'm normally anti undefeated fighters, but Usyk has truly faced everyone people called him to. He's gone undisputed twice, lol. There isn't much left for him to do, especially at his age. From an accomplishments standpoint, he should end his career. He's done it and can leave with a great resume and historical significance in the sport.

From a money standpoint, there is always someone they can match him up against. Since he's the head honcho of the division, it'll be lucrative with just about anyone else he faces, but is he set with the money? Does he care to earn more?

[Willow The Wisp]

Call me crazy, but he should go back down to cruiser and fight Ramirez.

Nothing to add to the legacy down there. Heavyweight is the Alpha.

[Willow The Wisp]

Plenty to choose from, should the champion wish to bolster his all-time legacy by adding greater numbers to his win column and number of title defenses, which are two high impact metrics when assessing trans generational greatness, and the only two areas where his resume could stand improvement.

January 2025

World Champion-
Oleksandr Usyk, Ukraine

1. Daniel Dubois, England
2. Tyson Fury, England
3. Joseph Parker, New Zealand
4. Zhilei Zhang, China
5. Agit Kabayel, Turkey
6. Martin Bakole, Congo
7. Andy Ruiz Jr., USA
8. Anthony Joshua, England
9. Jarrell Miller, USA
10. Moses Itauma, England
11. Dillian Whyte, England
12. Deontay Wilder, USA
13. Derrick Chisora, England
14. Filip Hrgovic, Croatia
15. Joe Joyce, England
16. Fabio Wardley, England
17. Michael Hunter, USA
18. Luis Ortiz, Cuba
19. Frank Sanchez, Cuba
20. Efe Ajagba, Nigeria
21. Bakhodir Jalolov, Uzbekistan
22. Otto Wallin, Sweden
23. Richard Torrez, USA
24. Jared Anderson, USA
25. Guido Vianello, Italy

[kafkod]

It's amazing how many people still don't know how a low blow is defined. It hit his friggin cup, FFS. His shorts were below the navel which defines the low blow line. The only reason this "controversy" exists is that people like to hate Usyk and don't understand the rules. Dubois is going to get a lesson from Parker, and that's the next fight to make, but if he beats Parker in style, I'm down for him to get his reminder from Usyk again. Dubois hit Usyk with something like 12 low blows before the one in question.

maybe they watched ward kovalev 2? thats quite the rollercoaster

It's a fact that many people judge whether a blow is low or not by referencing what they have seen other fighters get away with, rather than going by the actual rules.

An example of this happened a couple of days after Usyk vs Dubois. DD, Don Charles and Frank Warren appeared on the TalkSport podcast, crying about Daniel being "cheated" out of a KO win over Usyk. The 2 hosts both agreed that Daniel had been treated unfairly. And they backed up their opinion by referencing Jarad Anderson's win over Andrii Rudenko, which happened on the same night as Usyk vs DD. Jared, apparently, had been allowed to get away with multiple low blows on Rudenko, without without the ref saying anything. So, according to them, DD should have been allowed to do the same thing to Usyk. I kid you not, they actually said that!

[JimRaynor]

Usyk needs to fight himself and his ego next and defeat it so he can retire. He has cleaned out the division, there is nothing left for him but risk, especially at 38 years old. He relies on his speed, elusiveness, and work rate. All 3 are the first thing to go as a fighter ages.


The last thing he needs is to get old overnight and lose to someone like Joseph Parker or Bakole for everyone to then doubt his achievements and how good he really was.

[crimsonfalcon07]

It's a fact that many people judge whether a blow is low or not by referencing what they have seen other fighters get away with, rather than going by the actual rules.

An example of this happened a couple of days after Usyk vs Dubois. DD, Don Charles and Frank Warren appeared on the TalkSport podcast, crying about Daniel being "cheated" out of a KO win over Usyk. The 2 hosts both agreed that Daniel had been treated unfairly. And they backed up their opinion by referencing Jarad Anderson's win over Andrii Rudenko, which happened on the same night as Usyk vs DD. Jared, apparently, had been allowed to get away with multiple low blows on Rudenko, without without the ref saying anything. So, according to them, DD should have been allowed to do the same thing to Usyk. I kid you not, they actually said that!

This is a solid point I hadn't considered. But by that standard, every low blow should be legal by the standards of Loma v Salido. SMH.

[JimRaynor]

By 37 years of age the following once top tier heavyweights were washed or over the hill.

Evander Holyfield
Mike Tyson
Larry Holmes
Lennox Lewis
Wladimir Klitschko
Deontay Wilder
Rid**** Bowe
Michael Moore


In fact the only heavyweights that still showed elite level skill past the age of 37 in recent memory were/are Vitali Klitschko and Usyk. And Vitali atleast had his height and power to fall back on as he aged since speed was never his forte.


Usyk is playing with hubris boxing past the age of 38