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    #11
    Originally posted by daggum View Post
    hey folks, i remember canelo was scheduled to fight paul williams and i also remember at the time a lot of people thinking this was a "risky" fight or a "big" fight for canelo. can someone explain why to me? i was in a coma in 2012 or something but from what i recollect, paul williams had just been brutally ko'd by martinez, then beaten to a pulp by lara in one of the worst robberies ive ever seen. canelo then signs to fight him...what a great fight?

    wat...was this just because canelo supporters were high on their own farts and thought anyone canelo fought was good? williams was shot to pieces and not even ranked. classic cherry pick over a guy with a name but who could no longer compete at the highest level. then again maybe it was just low standards because canelo had been fighting unranked welterweights for so long.

    unfortunately williams had an accident and became paralzyed(im sure canelo still wanted to fight him after being paralyzed) so the fight never happened. what do you think about this fight? was it a cherry pick or am i in full hater mode?
    I heard Canelo really started pushing for the fight after the accident, then he asked if Ken Buchanan was still available and able to go a few classes up.

    I had doubts but for the first time I would put money on Clenelo if Buchanan would have taken the fight only at around 69 years old.

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      #12
      Canelo was particularly avoiding 160 at the time with custom 155 weight classes.
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        #13
        Originally posted by daggum View Post
        hey folks, i remember canelo was scheduled to fight paul williams and i also remember at the time a lot of people thinking this was a "risky" fight or a "big" fight for canelo. can someone explain why to me? i was in a coma in 2012 or something but from what i recollect, paul williams had just been brutally ko'd by martinez, then beaten to a pulp by lara in one of the worst robberies ive ever seen. canelo then signs to fight him...what a great fight?

        wat...was this just because canelo supporters were high on their own farts and thought anyone canelo fought was good? williams was shot to pieces and not even ranked. classic cherry pick over a guy with a name but who could no longer compete at the highest level. then again maybe it was just low standards because canelo had been fighting unranked welterweights for so long.

        unfortunately williams had an accident and became paralzyed(im sure canelo still wanted to fight him after being paralyzed) so the fight never happened. what do you think about this fight? was it a cherry pick or am i in full hater mode?
        - - Lady Lara couldn't bruise a fly, but he could fly backwards around the ring, so I'd say you're in clueless mode or stuck in glue.

        William's is listed as 6-1, but in photos he was significantly taller than Chris Arreola who's listed at ;

        Williams last bout was age 30 with the win to finish 41-2, 27 KO with a single KO loss. He also is one of the two to beat every fighter he faced that includes Sergio Martinez and Carlos Quintana.

        He was a nightmare because he had a 79" reach, ie 6'7" which is prob the reason they listed him at 6-1 so other welters and later superwelts would fight him. Had fast hands and fast feet and was a high volume puncher which is why he was highly ranked by Ring. He had a reputation as a nice guy which is a shame that auto ran him off the road in his prime years where he was eventually gonna move to heavy.

        We have a history section that apparently you don't know about if you want more of the same.

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          #14
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

          - - Lady Lara couldn't bruise a fly, but he could fly backwards around the ring, so I'd say you're in clueless mode or stuck in glue.

          William's is listed as 6-1, but in photos he was significantly taller than Chris Arreola who's listed at ;

          Williams last bout was age 30 with the win to finish 41-2, 27 KO with a single KO loss. He also is one of the two to beat every fighter he faced that includes Sergio Martinez and Carlos Quintana.

          He was a nightmare because he had a 79" reach, ie 6'7" which is prob the reason they listed him at 6-1 so other welters and later superwelts would fight him. Had fast hands and fast feet and was a high volume puncher which is why he was highly ranked by Ring. He had a reputation as a nice guy which is a shame that auto ran him off the road in his prime years where he was eventually gonna move to heavy.

          We have a history section that apparently you don't know about if you want more of the same.

          While technically he did beat every fighter he faced, the fights against Lara and Quintana was both terrible robberies, throw the Sergio Martinez fight in also. Nobody outside the paid off, corrupt officials seen anything other than him getting absolutely schooled in rather non competitive bouts.

          It doesn't matter what I think the rules are the rules but in cases where we can universally agree the decisions was bs I feel we shouldn't count them, at least I refuse to.
          I don't see why millions of people should have to accept the opinion of 2-3 either blind or paid off, corrupt officials. Fights like this should be overturned.

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            #15
            Originally posted by dan_cov View Post


            While technically he did beat every fighter he faced, the fights against Lara and Quintana was both terrible robberies, throw the Sergio Martinez fight in also. Nobody outside the paid off, corrupt officials seen anything other than him getting absolutely schooled in rather non competitive bouts.

            It doesn't matter what I think the rules are the rules but in cases where we can universally agree the decisions was bs I feel we shouldn't count them, at least I refuse to.
            I don't see why millions of people should have to accept the opinion of 2-3 either blind or paid off, corrupt officials. Fights like this should be overturned.
            He stopped Quintana in the first round, in the rematch.

            He lost to Quintana in the first fight, as in he lost the decison.

            Martinez 1 was definitely an either way fight, no robbery.

            Lara was a very obvious robbery.

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              #16
              Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

              Rent Free
              He took the bait! Fish on!
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                #17
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                - - Lady Lara couldn't bruise a fly, but he could fly backwards around the ring, so I'd say you're in clueless mode or stuck in glue.

                William's is listed as 6-1, but in photos he was significantly taller than Chris Arreola who's listed at ;

                Williams last bout was age 30 with the win to finish 41-2, 27 KO with a single KO loss. He also is one of the two to beat every fighter he faced that includes Sergio Martinez and Carlos Quintana.

                He was a nightmare because he had a 79" reach, ie 6'7" which is prob the reason they listed him at 6-1 so other welters and later superwelts would fight him. Had fast hands and fast feet and was a high volume puncher which is why he was highly ranked by Ring. He had a reputation as a nice guy which is a shame that auto ran him off the road in his prime years where he was eventually gonna move to heavy.

                We have a history section that apparently you don't know about if you want more of the same.
                Where does this idea come from? he has a 60+% stoppage rate while being a low volume high accuracy fighter. Ask Angulo and his broken orbital bone how featherfisted Lara is.

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                  #18
                  Nelo
                  Too many tools

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                    #19


                    Lmfao

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by MulaKO View Post


                      Lmfao
                      Not gonna click on the cookies thing
                      Did that journalist give a list ?

                      Clearly, Nelo will be a 1st ballot HOFer and rank on the ATG list.

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