Who had the better career at Welterweight: Pacquiao or Crawford?

[The Big Dunn]

Manny beat the same version of Mosley Illegalivweather beat. Manny got a kd where Illegalivweather couldn't, but they get the same amount of credit about 40%. Shane was beyond over the hill.

Manny had 61 total fights 5 losses including being ko'd 3x post Marquez. He was well past his prime son for illegalivweather and anything after that.

Nobody is saying Crawford didn't do anything at ww he did do a couple of things, but Manny just had the far better career resumewise, ppvwise, and any other wise you care to mention.

Crawford didn't sell @ ww needs to put in more work to get to Manny's level. Make that fight with Ennis.

He ducked Floyd to fight JMM a 4th time for $12 mil less than he would’ve made with no PPV.

He wasn’t shot. He made a coward move by ducking. He paid for it by getting ktfo.

Instead of you holding him accountable for his decisions you want to blame Floyd like Floyd had his hand up Manny’s ass and controlled him like a simpleton 3rd world puppet.

Just not ww wise. Crawford did more in the division than Manny did and beat their common opponent Manny lost to.

Ok of selling more ppv means he had the better career, than don’t say anything when someone says Floyd had the better career because he sold far more ppvs than Manny. Use the same standard for every boxer.

You mean Manny needs to unify all 4 ww belts. Crawford did everything a ww Manny did, except lose.

[djtmal]

He ducked Floyd

No he didn't

Floyd was scared of him for years

[The Big Dunn]

Manny fought Thurman. Same caliber fighter, except Thurman actually sells.

Lmfao. Thurman did nothing for 3 years after the loss.

You said Crawford’s win over Spence was no big deal because he hasn’t done anything in the approximately 2 years since the fight.

Use the same standard for every boxer.

[The Big Dunn]

No he didn't

Of course he did. You just defend it because your a pole smoker.

He turned down $40 mil to fight for $28 mil against someone who he said he had nothing to prove against. You claim any offer refused is a duck.

Hold every boxer to the same standard.

[The Big Dunn]

The thread says clearly, who has the better Career at ww. Career encompasses more than just their won loss record.

Yes their accomplishments. Out of the two, Crawford has the 2 best accomplishments- beating the common opponent Manny lost to and unifying all 4 belts, which Manny didn’t do.

You can’t be so dumb that you don’t grasp this.

[The Big Dunn]

Manny was in the lightweight division one fight prior, moved up two weight classes try again.

You said same ODH. I am responding to that. Just because I showed he wasn’t the same don’t pivot or divert to something else.

If you stick with this, it means we can say Manny was the same all through the end of the Ugas fight.

Hold every boxer to the same standard.

[djtmal]

Instead of you holding him accountable for his decisions you want to blame Floyd like Floyd had his hand up Manny’s ass and controlled him like a simpleton 3rd world puppet.

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Lol. He agreed to IllegalIvWeather's 14 day cutoff in 2010, then IllegalIvWeather moved the goalposts to 0 cutoff. It was obvious IllegalIvWeather was scared

[djtmal]

You said same ODH.

You making weight excuses when they agreed on weight.

[djtmal]

Just because I showed he wasn’t the same don’t pivot or divert to something

Immediately after the fight Oscar said Manny was the better fighter and he gives him all the credit in the world.

[djtmal]

If you stick with this, it means we can say Manny was the same all through the end of the Ugas fight.
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You talking in circles.


There's prime and past prime. Anything past the Marquez ko would put him past prime