Manny the Genetic Freak

[IronDanHamza]

Mayweather took his two-year strategic 'retirement' after the Hatton fight to recover from his 'roid abuse which had the convenient benefit of allowing him to avoid Cotto.

We can all make unfounded accusations.

It is quite funny to be honest, when both fan bases argue with each over this.

If you want to look at two athletes who scream likely PED use (on the surface)then look not further than Manny Pacquaio and Floyd Mayweather

[Coverdale]

People still booty hurt that an Asian goes down as one of the greatest boxers ever in a mostly black dominant sport. Yet those same black folks probably have a shrine for Bruce Lee. The hypocrisy is pathetic.

People want to say Pac was on roids, yet then downplay all his wins by, well, just read all the prior posts that so and so was this and that. So what is it? He was juiced to the gills and beat the competition down? Or was the competition beat down before he faced them? Haters arguing on Pac will turn your head into a bobble head.

In all the years of dealing with the haters or reading what they hate, I've yet to find any reasoning to believe it or change my mind. How on earth could you be a boxing fan and not enjoyed when Pac fought? Any fight of his you can watch to this day will provide entertainment. He lived the life of an action star in boxing. With what we have nowadays, there is no comparison to boxing entertainment and the fact that Pac was doing this at the highest level for the majority of his career in his prime. There will be no other in our lifetime.

It's always Mayweather fans doing it. And yet even Mayweather was a Pacquiao fan before they became rivals. Jumping with excitement at the Morales fight.

Mayweather was boring and inactive and his most rabid disciples have a two prong strategy to deal with this:

1. Downplay Pacquiao's more exciting wins by degrading the competition (even though they fought essentially the same opponents at 140/147).
2. Claim that Mayweather actually was exciting but the rest of us are not sophisticated enough to see it.

Pacquiao's run through the divisions was a great time to be a boxing fan, you'll always find losers on the internet who enjoy picking holes in it. It's not Pacquiao's fault Mayweather decided to go missing after the Hatton fight because of his hands or whatever the excuse was.

[Coverdale]

It is quite funny to be honest, when both fan bases argue with each over this.

If you want to look at two athletes who scream likely PED use (on the surface)then look not further than Manny Pacquaio and Floyd Mayweather

Arguably more so with Mayweather who enjoyed stacking things in his favour with home advantage, US referees/judges, ring size, gloves, etc. But we're supposed to believe he drew the line at PEDs, because he said so presumably. Even though he was an insecure, compulsive liar who worships money.

[IronDanHamza]

It's always Mayweather fans doing it. And yet even Mayweather was a Pacquiao fan before they became rivals. Jumping with excitement at the Morales fight.

Mayweather was boring and inactive and his most rabid disciples have a two prong strategy to deal with this:

1. Downplay Pacquiao's more exciting wins by degrading the competition (even though they fought essentially the same opponents at 140/147).
2. Claim that Mayweather actually was exciting but the rest of us are not sophisticated enough to see it.

Pacquiao's run through the divisions was a great time to be a boxing fan, you'll always find losers on the internet who enjoy picking holes in it. It's not Pacquiao's fault Mayweather decided to go missing after the Hatton fight because of his hands or whatever the excuse was.

I think more of a dislike for Morales after their sparring sessions as opposed to a fan of Pacquaio.

[IronDanHamza]

Arguably more so with Mayweather who enjoyed stacking things in his favour with home advantage, US referees/judges, ring size, gloves, etc. But we're supposed to believe he drew the line at PEDs, because he said so presumably. Even though he was an insecure, compulsive liar who worships money.

Well that’s another story. Don’t think it relates to potential PED use.

What he does have against him that Pacquaio doesn’t have is the illegal IV fiasco. Which is extremely suspect, at best.

[dan_cov]

Probably not anymore suspect than Manny avoiding drug testing and making a million excuses then Alex Ariza leaves the camp and suddenly the entire stable looks like ****ing ****!

[IronDanHamza]

Probably not anymore suspect than Manny avoiding drug testing and making a million excuses then Alex Ariza leaves the camp and suddenly the entire stable looks like ****ing ****!

Those are reasons for suspicion? Yes.

But not as suspect as Floyd’s IV situation, that’s just strongly pointing at one thing and one thing only.

But at the end of the day, there’s no demonstrable evidence that either used PEDs.

Did they? I would say very fuckin likely but we’ll never know for sure so it’s moot at this point.

[Butt stuff]

It is quite funny to be honest, when both fan bases argue with each over this.

If you want to look at two athletes who scream likely PED use (on the surface)then look not further than Manny Pacquaio and Floyd Mayweather

Gotta say, this forum improved so much when those two retired. The screeching threads reduced by an incredible amount.

[djtmal]

Yet no one must speak even the mildest criticism of their sacred cow.

The forum should just mass ignore TheProudLunatic (aka BodyBagz). It would at least force him to make another account.

Some overexaggerations you have to address

[djtmal]

Such a genetic freak he had to weightdrain his toughest opponents. But we don't talk about that. Pac is a coward who was scared to fight at 154. "7 division champion, my bass".

Illegalivweather avoided his toughest opponents altogether