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    #31
    Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

    Bud haters all around
    Still waiting for you to show me that regional title
    I think you taking this well too seriously man talking about bud haters all around, this is a discussion board and people have brought valid points to the discussion not everything is about being a fan or being a hater listen is Crawford a good fighter? yes he is but was the Spence win tainted? yes it was both things can be true. At the end of the day context matters in regards to fighters resumes like Rocky Marciano never being brought up as one of the best despite beating Joe Louis and Ezzard Charles ect because they were old and past their best resumes will always be dissected by boxing fans thats just part of the sport.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Kzbox View Post

      I think you taking this well too seriously man talking about bud haters all around, this is a discussion board and people have brought valid points to the discussion not everything is about being a fan or being a hater listen is Crawford a good fighter? yes he is but was the Spence win tainted? yes it was both things can be true. At the end of the day context matters in regards to fighters resumes like Rocky Marciano never being brought up as one of the best despite beating Joe Louis and Ezzard Charles ect because they were old and past their best resumes will always be dissected by boxing fans thats just part of the sport.
      My only problem is no one said a word when Spence beat Garcia and Ugas
      After his dismantling from Bud , he was damaged goods
      And Marciano does deserve credit for his wins
      I think you’re taking this more at heart than I am
      Trust won’t be losing any sleep

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        #33
        Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

        My only problem is no one said a word when Spence beat Garcia and Ugas
        After his dismantling from Bud , he was damaged goods
        And Marciano does deserve credit for his wins
        I think you’re taking this more at heart than I am
        Trust won’t be losing any sleep
        People were saying stuff though if you do a search between the time period (if you can) i'm sure you will find many posts regarding him being damaged goods. Nah i'm not at all you just calling everyone a hater for valid criticism.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Kzbox View Post

          People were saying stuff though if you do a search between the time period (if you can) i'm sure you will find many posts regarding him being damaged goods. Nah i'm not at all you just calling everyone a hater for valid criticism.
          Not everyone lol

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            #35
            Pre spence fight- = 50/50 on all forums. Bud barely a favorite.

            Post fight spence = spence was shot and past his prime. Bud beat a broken spence.

            PRE CANELO FIGHT = BUD TOO SMALL FOR CANELO.

            POST CANELO FIGHT = CANELO WAS PAST HIS PRIME. MAYWEATHER BEAT A BETTER VERSION OF CANELO WHO WAS WEIGHT DRAINED AND GREEN.
            Last edited by satiev1; 06-28-2025, 08:08 PM.

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              #36
              IF Crawford beats Canelo I want to see him given his flowers.

              People jizz everywhere over Usyks wins over past prime Fury and AJ

              Canelo is in much better form than those two were and is a genuine ATG which they are not.

              I want to see the same energy given to Crawford if he beats Canelo but why do I think I wont

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                #37
                Let's not be naive. Compared to the other top P4Pers,
                Crawford is a lot more careful about picking the right fights at the right time, against the right style.
                That's why he fights only once a year.
                It's no coincidence, Spence, Porter, Brook immediately retired right after fighting TC.

                Maybe to the public Spence seemed like a 50/50 fight, but Bud's camp knew about the decline/damage.
                Last edited by JOITATS; 06-28-2025, 09:13 PM.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by famicommander View Post

                  67. Do they not have BoxRec or Wikipedia where you come from?

                  r.
                  I asked you just answer the question.

                  The truth is Canelo is shopworn and Crawford is not.

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                    #39
                    Canelo is shopworn, shot to ****. You can't fight 32 rounds with GGG and remain the same. That trilogy probably took as many years off Canelo's career as Spence's car accident. The fact Canelo has managed to still compete and win at the highest level after GGG is a testament to his greatness. But years of fighting the best have taken their toll on ginger's body.

                    Spence on the contrary, he's older than Canelo but he's fresh like a lettuce in comparison, he's never been in a war and his best opponent ever was a damaged goods Spence. Crawford is less shopworn from inactivity and avoiding dangerous fighters like Boots, and fighting mostly chumps and shot fighters like Khan during his entire career. Canelo deserves massive credit if he wins, Spence deserves little credit for beating a shot to bits Canelo

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                      #40
                      Come on guys, lets not pretend like we don't know boxing, Canelo is completely shot (this is coming from a big big Canelo fan) that's why Crawford took the fight going up 2 divisions, he would never dare to fight him 3-4 years ago

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