They'd both beat Cotto. Cotto never wanted anything to do with Paul Williams for one. Cotto has lost most of his big fights except against Mosley. The reason Sergio hasn't fought a supposed Class A fighter is because they've avoided him
I like Paul Williams but people on this forum make him seem like some boogie man when he wasnt.
His best win was against an aged Wink Wright.
he was embarrassed by Lara (Angulo looked better!)
Outboxed by Quintana who Cotto broke down and decimated.
out worked and out llanded in the 2nd half of his Margarito fight.
He didn't have devastating punching power.
he through with volume but extremely sloppy and easy to counter.
not terribly difficult to hit.
didn't use his height as an advantage and couldn't fight inside
why is it a given that he would beat a skilled fighter like Cotto?
Because Cotto in my opinion is a better puncher and a great inside fighter, I'd pick him to win. He did not apply the same type of pressure as Margarito who even though he was 5'10 had the exact same reach as Cotto which helped him land shots on the inside that I don't think Paul would have.
Cotto did have a better career because he beat the two Class A fighters he fought.
Ah! No, wait he lost. Sorry!
Poor parrot of SERGIO,just to remember THOSE NAME OF A-CLASS FIGHTERS:
FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR. (STILL undeafeted 46-0)
MANNY PACQUIAO in 2009 when HE WAS N�1 P4P IN THE WORLD!!!
BYE BYE PARROT,COTTO IS THE BOSS AND SERGIO A CRY BABY!!
SERGIO : hey guys,did you see it? He didn't shake my hand,he ignored me,damn i'm the middleweight champion of the world.MAMA go to COTTO and say to him that he is not a gentleman ,ue ue uue!!!
That's what makes it a diva move , meaning if you don't agree there's no fight. Martinez had no choice but give in to Cotto's demands otherwise there would be no fight. This applies to all fights where there a clear "A side" , B side has to give in to any Diva demands if they don't want to jeopardize the fight.
As long as Cotto is not roiding up like marquez and Manny, he is a TRUE champ. Besides, I have a feeling Sergio has found the PEDs long ago
Cotto is a throwback to when fighters had pride and did not need PEDS to look like heroes in the ring.
If I'm not mistaken, Sergio never has a hard time making weight and he's always around that range anyway. I think it's more of Cotto showing his negotiation power and using mind games getting to Sergio...which seemed to work since he's calling him a diva now.
When a man accept a situation...accept and stay in silence;if not he is a cry baby looking for excuses(THESE ARE ITALIANS ROOTS,not only italians anyway)!!!LIKE I SAID,MARTINEZ HAS NEVER WEIGHT 160pound AT HIS WEIGH IN!!!
Cotto & Martinez are Italian? Why even bring that up? Shows the sense or lack thereof that you have, SMDH......
Why would it bother Sergio or his people if Sergio " never" has come in at 160?....I understand all the diva talk but Sergio is sounding like one when it bothers him to do something he always does anyway...
Why make the demand in the 1st place? Because you can? TFOH......
LIKE I SAID:
WHEN YOU ACCEPT A SITUATION,YOU ACCEPT AND STAY IN SILENCE IF YOU ARE A MAN,IF NOT YOU ARE A PUPPY READY FOR SOME EXCUSES BETWEEN MUM'S ARMS!!!
SERGIO fought 159 with a natural cruiserweight as CHAVEZ JR. and they are talking about 159 vs a superlightweight as COTTO,please CRY BABY/PUPPIES!!!!!!
SERGIO fought under 158 vs PAUL WILLIAMS and MACKLIN,158 with BARKER.....FACT!!!
ciao ciao,i'm over with this!!!
IF YOU'RE A REAL MAN - YOU ACCEPT HOW THINGS ARE DONE. CHALLENGER COMES IN FIRST, NOT LAST. IF YOU'RE A REAL MAN - YOU FIGHT, WITHOUT MAKING DEMANDS AND STFU! How about that?
How many class A fighters has Martinez fought? How many ppv did Martinez headline? Ah that's right zero. Yes the demands are silly but he's the draw and can request these things if he pleases too. Just like Mayweather with certain demands, Cotto did the same thing.
The bolded part is where you should have ended your comment. Just because people were douches to Cotto in negotiating doesn't mean that he has to become one himself, UNLESS he was one already to start with......
So Cotto loses to 2 tall MW's this is news? And please, Paul Willaims is the most overrated fighter in these message boards. The guy was 6'2" and a toothpick with zero pop to his punches. Cotto would break a rib with one body shot, ESPCIALLY at 147. Sergio was avoided by A class fighters? Who exactly are you talking about because there were no A class fighters at 154 or 160 when he was in those weight classes.
Of course Pavlik would beat Cotto what the ****? He's a giant 160 pounder, but Williams is a ****ing twig. What good is a pressure fighter if he has the same pop as Paulie? Willaims is nothing but the tall black version of Baby Bull Diaz and that's a fact.
When Cotto hit Quintana with that left hook Quintana looked like he was shot, Quintana even beat Paul Williams and you are going to tell me Cotto couldn't?
Pavlik is only 1 inch taller than P-Will, so that statement is moot. And Sergio beat BOTH - CONVINCINGLY! Your opinion is just like your ****** - full of shyte. Just step away from the keyboard.......
I like Paul Williams but people on this forum make him seem like some boogie man when he wasnt.
His best win was against an aged Wink Wright.
he was embarrassed by Lara (Angulo looked better!)
Outboxed by Quintana who Cotto broke down and decimated.
out worked and out llanded in the 2nd half of his Margarito fight.
He didn't have devastating punching power.
he through with volume but extremely sloppy and easy to counter.
not terribly difficult to hit.
didn't use his height as an advantage and couldn't fight inside
why is it a given that he would beat a skilled fighter like Cotto?
Because Cotto in my opinion is a better puncher and a great inside fighter, I'd pick him to win. He did not apply the same type of pressure as Margarito who even though he was 5'10 had the exact same reach as Cotto which helped him land shots on the inside that I don't think Paul would have.
NOBODY wanted to fight P-Will, Floyd included. And P-Will beat Margarito, who beat the brakes off of Cotto (wraps or not & remember NO ONE knows how long Margarito was using them). Just by sheer volume alone, P-Will would have overwhelmed Cotto who needs to find his rhythm and would not have been able to because of the volume of punches he would have had to defend. There would have been no time to set up any offense.....
Cotto & Martinez are Italian? Why even bring that up? Shows the sense or lack thereof that you have, SMDH......
Why make the demand in the 1st place? Because you can? TFOH......
IF YOU'RE A REAL MAN - YOU ACCEPT HOW THINGS ARE DONE. CHALLENGER COMES IN FIRST, NOT LAST. IF YOU'RE A REAL MAN - YOU FIGHT, WITHOUT MAKING DEMANDS AND STFU! How about that?
It's pointless because you can't point them out.......
The bolded part is where you should have ended your comment. Just because people were douches to Cotto in negotiating doesn't mean that he has to become one himself, UNLESS he was one already to start with......
Pavlik is only 1 inch taller than P-Will, so that statement is moot. And Sergio beat BOTH - CONVINCINGLY! Your opinion is just like your ****** - full of shyte. Just step away from the keyboard.......
NOBODY wanted to fight P-Will, Floyd included. And P-Will beat Margarito, who beat the brakes off of Cotto (wraps or not & remember NO ONE knows how long Margarito was using them). Just by sheer volume alone, P-Will would have overwhelmed Cotto who needs to find his rhythm and would not have been able to because of the volume of punches he would have had to defend. There would have been no time to set up any offense.....
"ITALIANS' ROOTS" because italians teach how to be tough,if you accept a situation also if you don't like it,after you have accept it you have to stay in silence and do facts!!!
About your last answer in your loooooooooooooong post,MARGARITO put KO SERGIO if you don't remember and without ILLEGAL WRAPS at that time,BYYYYE!!
cotto & martinez are italian? Why even bring that up? Shows the sense or lack thereof that you have, smdh......
Why make the demand in the 1st place? Because you can? Tfoh......
If you're a real man - you accept how things are done. Challenger comes in first, not last. If you're a real man - you fight, without making demands and stfu! How about that?
It's pointless because you can't point them out.......
The bolded part is where you should have ended your comment. Just because people were douches to cotto in negotiating doesn't mean that he has to become one himself, unless he was one already to start with......
Pavlik is only 1 inch taller than p-will, so that statement is moot. And sergio beat both - convincingly! Your opinion is just like your ****** - full of shyte. Just step away from the keyboard.......
Nobody wanted to fight p-will, floyd included. And p-will beat margarito, who beat the brakes off of cotto (wraps or not & remember no one knows how long margarito was using them). Just by sheer volume alone, p-will would have overwhelmed cotto who needs to find his rhythm and would not have been able to because of the volume of punches he would have had to defend. There would have been no time to set up any offense.....
margarito throws 100 punches a round... Cotto didnt have any trouble le hitting him. Someone needs to show me this paul williams boogie man on tape vs a fighter of note. I remember him struggling every time he stepped up in class.
margarito throws 100 punches a round... Cotto didnt have any trouble le hitting him. Someone needs to show me this paul williams boogie man on tape vs a fighter of note. I remember him struggling every time he stepped up in class.
He did - against Quintana - Cotto's step son. Quintana put a 10-2 clinic on him. The rematch was just a quick blitz. I put more weight on the 12 round demolition than a quick blitz.
But I do give Williams credit in the first Martinez fight - it was a war
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