The Most Important Belt in Boxing is Still the Ring Magazine Belt

[ИATAS]

Thats all 100% correct, but whos the superior opposition here? I feel like I'm in one of those threads where someone is hardcore ****ting on the #1 guy in a division, but than someone says name the guy who can beat that guy & everyone stfu.

Whats "the belt" in boxing today thats better than the devalued Ring belt owned by a crossdressing promoter? I can't say I value the WBC, IBF, WBA, WBO, IBO or any other belt more than I value the Ring belt. The flaws of the other belts are far greater than the Ring's flaws.

Unification trumps a single belt, imo. I think if one guy in the division has three belts and another guy one belt, the unified champion is usually always the top guy. Look at the heavy division. For years Klitschko had all the belts except one, no one really gave a crap about the guy who had the lone belt, Klitschko was the real champion even before he got the ring belt.

There really isn't any value anymore between them all. I mean in one division the legit champion could have only the WBC belt and maybe in another division the legit champion only has the IBF belt. Doesn't really matter. That's why I always want and root for unification fights over anything else. Have one guy in each division get all the belts or at least the majority. Only solution. Unfortunately it's difficult to do though.

[Eff Pandas]

Unification trumps a single belt, imo. I think if one guy in the division has three belts and another guy one belt, the unified champion is usually always the top guy. Look at the heavy division. For years Klitschko had all the belts except one, no one really gave a crap about the guy who had the lone belt, Klitschko was the real champion even before he got the ring belt.

There really isn't any value anymore between them all. I mean in one division the legit champion could have only the WBC belt and maybe in another division the legit champion only has the IBF belt. Doesn't really matter. That's why I always want and root for unification fights over anything else. Have one guy in each division get all the belts or at least the majority. Only solution. Unfortunately it's difficult to do though.

You're making me feel like Jon Stewart asking Bill O'Reilly a question on the Daily Show back in the day.

So you're of the opinion the WBC, IBF, WBA, Ring, WBO, IBO & all the other belts are equally bull**** as stand alone titles?

See I can't really go with that. I think the Ring is clearly & without dispute the best title around these days. Nearly any top ten caliber guy can win a WBC, IBF, WBA, WBA or IBO belt. I don't believe the same can be said for the Ring belt. You are a higher level of fighter for winning the Ring belt vs these other alphabet belts. I mean just go look at the Ring champions through out history & than go look at any or all of these other belts' champions through out history. Its no comparison who has the superior title holders & the least bs title holders.

And again thats not to say the Ring is perfect. In recent years they've lowered the bar on winning the Ring belt + Oscar owns the mag & surely has more influence than he'd admit which brings questions to a great many things going on with Ring. BUT that level of sketchiness is 1/10 of the straight up corruption with these other belts & the often severely sub par title holders.

[Real King Kong]

You're making me feel like Jon Stewart asking Bill O'Reilly a question on the Daily Show back in the day.

So you're of the opinion the WBC, IBF, WBA, Ring, WBO, IBO & all the other belts are equally bull**** as stand alone titles?

See I can't really go with that. I think the Ring is clearly & without dispute the best title around these days. Nearly any top ten caliber guy can win a WBC, IBF, WBA, WBA or IBO belt. I don't believe the same can be said for the Ring belt. You are a higher level of fighter for winning the Ring belt vs these other alphabet belts. I mean just go look at the Ring champions through out history & than go look at any or all of these other belts' champions through out history. Its no comparison who has the superior title holders & the least bs title holders.

And again thats not to say the Ring is perfect. In recent years they've lowered the bar on winning the Ring belt + Oscar owns the mag & surely has more influence than he'd admit which brings questions to a great many things going on with Ring. BUT that level of sketchiness is 1/10 of the straight up corruption with these other belts & the often severely sub par title holders.

There are cases where fighters have moved into a division and been better than the ring champ but never faced him before moving up.

[ИATAS]

You're making me feel like Jon Stewart asking Bill O'Reilly a question on the Daily Show back in the day.

So you're of the opinion the WBC, IBF, WBA, Ring, WBO, IBO & all the other belts are equally bull**** as stand alone titles?

See I can't really go with that. I think the Ring is clearly & without dispute the best title around these days. Nearly any top ten caliber guy can win a WBC, IBF, WBA, WBA or IBO belt. I don't believe the same can be said for the Ring belt. You are a higher level of fighter for winning the Ring belt vs these other alphabet belts. I mean just go look at the Ring champions through out history & than go look at any or all of these other belts' champions through out history. Its no comparison who has the superior title holders & the least bs title holders.

And again thats not to say the Ring is perfect. In recent years they've lowered the bar on winning the Ring belt + Oscar owns the mag & surely has more influence than he'd admit which brings questions to a great many things going on with Ring. BUT that level of sketchiness is 1/10 of the straight up corruption with these other belts & the often severely sub par title holders.

The Ring can't enforce mandatories, it doesn't have title eliminators, it doesn't have tournaments, it doesn't do anything at all, other than say, here is a belt. Now again, this was cool when it was exclusive with being lineal champ. It was a way for us fans to physically see our imaginary lineage. That is gone now, they aren't mutually exclusive. Stevenson, as weak as his opposition had been recently, is STILL lineal champ. So what now? Someone else can win the ring belt with out beating Stevenson? That's ******. So the ring belt has been devalued TREMENDOUSLY. It's not the same as it was and you strip away the value, it's practically meaningless now.

[Eff Pandas]

There are cases where fighters have moved into a division and been better than the ring champ but never faced him before moving up.

There are a ton of unique situations you can mention. I don't know that they play into overall the Ring title is the #1 belt in boxing today.

All the alphabet group titles have had probably several guys who were ranked 8th or worst in one division or another in the last 12 months.

Whatever you can say bad about the Ring belt you can say way worse about the alphabet belts. Hence Ring belt>Alphabet belts.

[Street]

Lol. Don't make me laugh with that nonsense Ring belt. It's a magazine owned by Oscar the fishnet pantyhose and highheels wearing transformer. The Ring Belt does not carry weight in Europe, Latin America and Asia. It's only a simple american magazine recognition. The Ring Magazine. The same magazine that featured Ronda Rousey on the cover, an MMA fighter was the hype of the decade.

[Eff Pandas]

The Ring can't enforce mandatories, it doesn't have title eliminators, it doesn't have tournaments, it doesn't do anything at all, other than say, here is a belt.

The alphabet groups have bs mandatories. And belts aren't gifted by Ring like they are gifted from alphabet groups. You gotta fight a top guy. In the IBF right now HW's Glazkov & Martin will be fighting for a title soon out of the blue.

Stevenson, as weak as his opposition had been recently, is STILL lineal champ. So what now? Someone else can win the ring belt with out beating Stevenson? That's ******.

I don't even got time or the desire to list all the ****** things the alphabet groups have done, but they surely dwarf the wrongs committed by Ring I think you'd agree?

So the ring belt has been devalued TREMENDOUSLY. It's not the same as it was and you strip away the value, it's practically meaningless now.

You are arguing against a debate that isn't going on. I already agreed the Ring has dropped in value in my first or second post. Even if Ring's belt has been devalued "TREMENDOUSLY" & is "practically meaningless" its still head & shoulders above the alphabet group titles.

I'm not saying Ring is perfect. I'm saying its the #1 belt in the sport today, cuz look at the opponents its got across the ring. The alphabet groups have been, are & seemingly will continue to be highly corrupt groups that have bendable & breakable rules for the right guy that Ring hasn't come close to duplicating.

[Eff Pandas]

Lol. Don't make me laugh with that nonsense Ring belt. It's a magazine owned by Oscar the fishnet pantyhose and highheels wearing transformer. The Ring Belt does not carry weight in Europe, Latin America and Asia. It's only a simple american magazine recognition. The Ring Magazine. The same magazine that featured Ronda Rousey on the cover, an MMA fighter was the hype of the decade.

Whats the #1 standalone belt in the sport then?

[Lester Tutor]

Floyd + any technical association of the Ring = "fighter of the decade"

Floyd had superseded Pac in Ring bouts alone yet....wait for it....!!!

Pac + any technical association of the Ring = fighter of the decade!

SUSPECT...

Garbage ass Ring

[Tedkidlewis]

History has shown the WBC belt to be the most prestigious and lucrative championship BELT in boxing.

If someone values the lineal championship over a specific championship BELT, that's cool with me, but you're asking specifically about belts. I don't think there's any doubt out of all of the belts in boxing, the WBC belt adds the most to a fighter's marketability.

The WBC belt just looks the best. When it comes to alphabet titles, the fighter makes the belt credible, not the other way round.

If Fury gave up all his belts apart from the IBO, that ****** belt would be the most prestigious of any of the alphabet straps in the heavyweight division.

The Ring belt is still far more accurate at showing who the top guy of the division is then any of the titles.