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    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
    Al puts this card on CBS. It gets paid for. The hope is the larger audience tunes in and then when either fights again they tune in then as well. So if the exposure on CBS helps build either individually, and that pays off down the road when they are on a PBC card, which is good for boxing fans.

    Either way you seem more concerned about the banner the fight is promoted under rather than the actual fight. Whether its showtime on CBS or PBC, I expect more people will tune in then will tune into an HBO card this year-which is why you are so upset.
    Why would I be upset it's you haymon fanboys --> check your avatar, I can see why you upset Haymon's PBC is looking like a failure more and more each day. Prints up banners saying this is a PBC fight and can't even afford to change it when he's forced to move the fight to Showtime. If the fight does well everyone who watched will say oh showtime has some great fights. Not I got to check out PBC. The irony is you and many others been hyping up this fight for months saying how it's going to be a game changer for PBC...and the fight ain't even on PBC no more.

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      Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
      Why would I be upset it's you haymon fanboys --> check your avatar, I can see why you upset Haymon's PBC is looking like a failure more and more each day. Prints up banners saying this is a PBC fight and can't even afford to change it when he's forced to move the fight to Showtime. If the fight does well everyone who watched will say oh showtime has some great fights. Not I got to check out PBC. The irony is you and many others been hyping up this fight for months saying how it's going to be a game changer for PBC...and the fight ain't even on PBC no more.
      You said "forced to move to CBS". I wish someone would pay me to move a fight to a larger network.

      2 of Al's fighters are fighting on the most watched network in primetime. You see that as a loss because the banner reads "Showtime on CBS" and not PBC. Al just had a primetime slot on ESPN which averaged 2.5 mil viewers, peaking at 3.39mil for the main event. you see this as a loss because it finished behind #1 drama on tv, LeBron and figure skating. (I notice you skipped my post asking you which you think finished 4th out of those 4)

      If you say its bad, ok. I'll take that bad any day.

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        Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
        You said "forced to move to CBS". I wish someone would pay me to move a fight to a larger network.

        2 of Al's fighters are fighting on the most watched network in primetime. You see that as a loss because the banner reads "Showtime on CBS" and not PBC. Al just had a primetime slot on ESPN which averaged 2.5 mil viewers, peaking at 3.39mil for the main event. you see this as a loss because it finished behind #1 drama on tv, LeBron and figure skating. (I notice you skipped my post asking you which you think finished 4th out of those 4)

        If you say its bad, ok. I'll take that bad any day.
        You mean FOX, and those numbers got them dead last and are lower then what UFC does with their preliminary fights aka undercard fights with their lesser known fighters. And this is the best Haymon can do with his so called "stars"? So I'll say it again the goal for PBC is to draw ratings to get a TV deal for PBC right? So why are you telling the media about this big fight on PBC and then last minute switch it to a Showtime brand fight not PBC. How does that build the PBC brand? You are smart enough to know damn well that is a big deal. And you specifically have been saying PBC needs to put on better fights with their top guys to increase the ratings. But now they are in tough spot because their fights can't draw enough ratings but are criticized because they have not been great matchups and they can't put on better better matchups because they can't afford them. So when the money runs out for PBC and they can't afford to pay the networks for the air time why would any network pay for PBC?

        And finishing dead last in prime time is not good. And if PBC can't compete with the other prime time programming what is the point of all this?

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          Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
          Al puts this card on CBS. It gets paid for. The hope is the larger audience tunes in and then when either fights again they tune in then as well. So if the exposure on CBS helps build either individually, and that pays off down the road when they are on a PBC card, which is good for boxing fans.

          Either way you seem more concerned about the banner the fight is promoted under rather than the actual fight. Whether its showtime on CBS or PBC, I expect more people will tune in then will tune into an HBO card this year-which is why you are so upset.
          Porter/Thurman is a PBC fight. The PBC logo is on the promotional art and it is listed on the PBC schedule. Fights that air on Showtime do not bear any PBC imagery and are not included on the PBC schedule.

          The only difference with Porter/Thurman compared to the other PBC telecasts is as you said, PBC is not footing the bill, Showtime is. That's why the telecast is called Showtime Boxing on CBS instead of PBC on CBS. But make no mistake about it. This is a PBC fight.

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            Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
            Porter/Thurman is a PBC fight. The PBC logo is on the promotional art and it is listed on the PBC schedule. Fights that air on Showtime do not bear any PBC imagery and are not included on the PBC schedule.

            The only difference with Porter/Thurman compared to the other PBC telecasts is as you said, PBC is not footing the bill, Showtime is. That's why the telecast is called Showtime Boxing on CBS instead of PBC on CBS. But make no mistake about it. This is a PBC fight.
            This guy obviously works for the site to keep traffic up. Trolling at its finest. I know to ignore him in the future.

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              Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
              Porter/Thurman is a PBC fight. The PBC logo is on the promotional art and it is listed on the PBC schedule. Fights that air on Showtime do not bear any PBC imagery and are not included on the PBC schedule.

              The only difference with Porter/Thurman compared to the other PBC telecasts is as you said, PBC is not footing the bill, Showtime is. That's why the telecast is called Showtime Boxing on CBS instead of PBC on CBS. But make no mistake about it. This is a PBC fight.
              Dude the promotional art doesn't have Showtime on it either. But clearly Showtime is producing it and it's branded Showtime because the press release says so and the head of Showtime says so. That banner was probably made prior to Showtime being in the fold. My guess is in addition to PBC not being able to afford these fights that they announce months earlier they can't afford to throw away an old banner and print up a new on. Al bernstein who has no affiliation with PBC and works exclusively on showtime has said he's excited to call this fight.

              What's more likely originally planned this fight to be exclusively on PBC and that's why they have art and it on their schedule but that changed last minute?

              or

              that Showtime is lying even though they ar included in the press release which makes NO MENTION of PBC by the way and the quotes from the Head of Showtime say we are producing this and it will be branded "Showtime Boxing on CBS"?

              You point out quotes and press releases from high execs and all you get back is well it has to be on PBC it's on an outdated website calendar? LMAO

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                Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
                Dude the promotional art doesn't have Showtime on it either. But clearly Showtime is producing it and it's branded Showtime because the press release says so and the head of Showtime says so. That banner was probably made prior to Showtime being in the fold. My guess is in addition to PBC not being able to afford these fights that they announce months earlier they can't afford to throw away an old banner and print up a new on. Al bernstein who has no affiliation with PBC and works exclusively on showtime has said he's excited to call this fight.

                What's more likely originally planned this fight to be exclusively on PBC and that's why they have art and it on their schedule but that changed last minute?

                or

                that Showtime is lying even though they ar included in the press release which makes NO MENTION of PBC by the way and the quotes from the Head of Showtime say we are producing this and it will be branded "Showtime Boxing on CBS"?

                You point out quotes and press releases from high execs and all you get back is well it has to be on PBC it's on an outdated website calendar? LMAO

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                  Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                  Gotta him the thread MVP award. Without him, this **** would have died at 5 pages.

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