Comments Thread For: Garcia: If Golovkin Will Face Floyd at 154, Then Face Canelo at 155

[ShoulderRoll]

Just cos he went to 154 for Floyd how does that then mean he has to go to 155 for nelo? Nelo is more than 1 lb heavier than Floyd so GGG can go to 157 for nelo!

The way I see it he'll only go to 154 because he knows he's so much bigger than Floyd and Floyd is almost 40.

Whereas he doesn't want to take any risk or give any advantages to the younger Canelo at 155.

[vitali1999]

In your last paragraph you just described somebGGG fans. Wade tailered made for ****** fans. That right there is what FK'd up about boxing. Wade shouldn't of been in the RING with GGG and you LOVED that POS mismatch... As long as GGG got his KO and looked good against the BUM.

Why does GGG fans bring up Rod Salka when talking about HUGE MISMATCHES but NOT GGG vs. Wade which was WORSE??? I would be ASHAMED if my favorite fighter did that sht. And I'm sure you Bi@tched and moaned about Berto / Floyd.

Mismatch yes, gggs fault no. Wade, BUM, no. He was undefeated and the IBF top mandatory. If ggg wouldn't have fought Wade he would have been stripped of that title. Ggg wants all the middleweight belts. He doesn't care what you or others say. It's about legacy and cleaning out the middleweight division to him

[hugh grant]

Robert Garcia is absolutely right. Why will Golovkin go down to 154 for Floyd but not to 155 for Canelo?

It's worth it for $10 million.

The way I see it he'll only go to 154 because he knows he's so much bigger than Floyd and Floyd is almost 40.

Whereas he doesn't want to take any risk or give any advantages to the younger Canelo at 155.

Yes, nelo is younger and GGG is overrated and fought bums so you agree 157 is fair. So you agree 155 isnt fair and 157 is fair

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Respected trainer Robert Garcia believes IBO/WBA/IBF middleweight champion Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin (35-0, 32KOs) should bite the bullet and agree to face Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez (46-1-1, 32KOs), who holds the WBC middleweight title, at a catch-weight of 155-pounds.
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WBC mandatory foo!!! 160 or go home, there ain't no 155 weight class.

[observer]

So I went through 10 pages of comments to make sure what I want to say hasn't been said already.

It hasn't.

Yet it's so obvious I am surprised no-one says it.

Sure, there have been catchweight fights in the past.

Although I don't remember a situation when a mandatory was forced to take a catchweight fight. Not to say it didn't happen, I just can't remember any.

First, why are we counting GGG's money? Who are we to say GGG shouldn't waste away millions? Those would be his millions. It's not like we are getting a cut of his money. He keeps saying he is in boxing for the glory, not for the money. It's his right to pass on the money.

Second, GGG insists this is about the title. OK, Canelo wants to force GGG to fight him at 155, but why should it be for Canelo's title? Let Canelo relinquish the belt, then we can talk about a catchweight. GGG did say he would go down to 154 for the right fight. But he didn't say he would do it fighting for a title that he is mandatory for.

Third, and final point. GGG is in the right and Canelo is in the wrong here. Period. That doesn't mean that GGG was never wrong before - I didn't like his 164 catchweight offer to Ward which was bull****. And yes, other B fighters took CW fights before. But two wrongs don't make a right. If GGG can resist the temptation and say no to the money, more power to him.

No-one should say GGG has to take the catchweight fight to fight for a middleweight title. He doesn't have to. He is fully within his rights to tell Canelo where to go and take his title without a fight. And he shouldn't be blamed for doing that.

[Shadoww702]

The 90/10 thing was OBVIOUSLY a silly off-handed comment to the media..... most likely made to diminish Golovkin, or to diminish the necessity for Canelo to face Golovkin NOW.

I never took it seriously, and I don't many others did either, including Team Golovkin..... a few fans decided to run with it.

Negotiations have not even started yet, and Golovkin will obviously make more than Khan..... so yea, I wouldn't take that off-handed comment out of context.

Why do you guys focus on the absurd, and ignore the obvious?

The weight is obviously the issue.

That 90-10 split was actually started by Sanchez to Andre Ward. That a fair split would be 90-10. And that Ward is the B-side, can't sale out a stadium. Has no right to demand anything.

Notice all those things team GGG said to Ward. Oscar is repeating back to him?

A-Side, B-Side, Catch-weight, doesn't sale PPV's. Never fought anyone ( Same thing as Ward who has he fought lately, he's retired).

I don't know if it's by accident or most likely NOT but there almost saying word-for-word what Sanchez/Loeffler said about Ward...

It's pretty comical IMO. Just goes show be careful what you say cause it could come back to haunt you...

[sterilizer]

The guys who are focusing on the fact that Mayweather would be coming up in weight, are completely missing the point.

If you can make 154, then you can make 154.

EXACTLY.

Once GGG said he would make 154 for Mayweather Jr. only, but not 155 for Canelo, he lost all credibility among people who are not his worshipers more than his fans.

That's 100% hypocrisy and cowardice.

It means he is not afraid of taking on the smaller guy, at about the same weight as the bigger guy, and he uses the excuse of a bigger payday and his "dream fight" to justify what has no justification whatsoever.

Oh and just a reminder: he has said "I will fight ANYONE from 154 to 168"

Yet he refused fighting Ward at 168 and wanted a 164 catch-weight

And now he is refusing Canelo at 155 and demands 160.

ANYONE from 154 to 168 means ANYONE. Period. Otherwise, you are a liar and a coward. AFAIK, Canelo has never said "I will fight anyone from 155 to 160" has he? He has never ever fought past 155, and a guy who has fought dozens of times at 160 and won all those times (a guy super-comfortable at that weight, the PERFECT weight for him at this point) wants to force Canelo to fight in that weight? Again, hypocrisy at its best.

Again, they are both cowards against each other, one fears fighting the other at 160, and the other fears his opponent at 155. Very simple.

[richardt]

You CANNOT defend your middleweight title "with pride" if you do not take on 160 pound fighters!!!! This has NOTHING to do with GGG. Canelo puts that 155 stipulation on ALL middleweights!

[Shadoww702]

Mismatch yes, gggs fault no. Wade, BUM, no. He was undefeated and the IBF top mandatory. If ggg wouldn't have fought Wade he would have been stripped of that title. Ggg wants all the middleweight belts. He doesn't care what you or others say. It's about legacy and cleaning out the middleweight division to him

Wade IS a BUM! Who looked like he trained maybe two entire days for that fight! EVERY article I read said the SAME thing. He was PATHETIC.

If it's TRULY about the Belt how come he just didn't pay Saunders an additional $2.5 million for HIS belt??? Because it became about the $$$$ in the end. So stop with that BS. And NO I don't think Saunders is any good or even WORTH the $1.5 million but that was GGG best shot at his belt. Now Saunders will probably lose his next fight and GGG has to wait LONGER for that belt.

Even paying $4 million or negotiate in the MIDDLE or $1.5 -4. The FIGHT would of STILL been profitable!

[hugh grant]

EXACTLY.

Once GGG said he would make 154 for Mayweather Jr. only, but not 155 for Canelo, he lost all credibility among people who are not his worshipers more than his fans.

That's 100% hypocrisy and cowardice.

It means he is not afraid of taking on the smaller guy, at about the same weight as the bigger guy, and he uses the excuse of a bigger payday and his "dream fight" to justify what has no justification whatsoever.

So Floyd can fight dlh at 154 but not nelo at 154? So Floyd can bloat people up 2 divisions but GGG can't bloat Floyd up 2 divisions?
We know GGG isn't allowed to, that's why its 154!
Doesn't mean he has to for nelo! Just because he is prepared to do it for Floyd don't mean he has to for nelo.
Rjjj went upo for Ruiz so does that mean he has to for Lennox? People are being unfair and bullying GGG. I hate bullies!