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    #11
    but people keep telling me GGG doesnt want to fight top fighters, they wouldnt lie to me surely?

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      #12
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
      I respect both points but GGG has taken step aside money on multiple occasions prior to this fiasco.

      Yes, GGG has tried to make the other fights. regarding Jacobs, he is waiting to maximize his take. I should have posted this is the same position HBO is taking relative to GGG/Canelo.

      In taking the Brook fight he is taking an easy fight for the payday to keep undefeated and in position for the big payday.

      Is it fair to fault the other guys for trying to do same and position themselves for a possible Canelo fight prior to Sept. 2017?
      It's not the same. Danny isn't taking step aside money to let the Golovkin fight build up. Danny's not even trying to make the fight period.

      Golovkin allowed Cotto & Canelo to have fights because he knew if he forced his mandatory, they'd vacate, which is exactly what Canelo did anyways. He wasn't trying to milk his mandatory status, he was trying to lure those guys into an actual fight with him. Golovkin would've took those fights ASAP, he has no control over those guys agreeing to fight him, he can take a step aside and see if they'll agree or just have them stripped out right. Very different from Danny's stance.

      The Brook fight is a big payday in it's self. In fact it's his biggest payday yet. Instead of Brook, he could've fought Khurtsidze, Lee, or Korobov for a fraction of the money, received far less attention, not break into the UK market, and still get heavily criticized. It's yet to be seen whether Brook will be an easy win.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Eastcoast View Post
        It's not the same. Danny isn't taking step aside money to let the Golovkin fight build up. Danny's not even trying to make the fight period.

        Golovkin allowed Cotto & Canelo to have fights because he knew if he forced his mandatory, they'd vacate, which is exactly what Canelo did anyways. He wasn't trying to milk his mandatory status, he was trying to lure those guys into an actual fight with him. Golovkin would've took those fights ASAP, he has no control over those guys agreeing to fight him, he can take a step aside and see if they'll agree or just have them stripped out right. Very different from Danny's stance.

        The Brook fight is a big payday in it's self. In fact it's his biggest payday yet. Instead of Brook, he could've fought Khurtsidze, Lee, or Korobov for a fraction of the money, received far less attention, not break into the UK market, and still get heavily criticized. It's yet to be seen whether Brook will be an easy win.
        Danny said he will consider the fight when the money is right. While we'd all rather he just fight, if you can reasonably understand GGG's choice of Brook over those you listed, you should be able to judge Danny's position with the same reasoning.

        HBO is not going to risk GGG losing before the Canelo fight. Brook is the same as Khan was relative to Canelo. The difference being Khan had losses but had defeated quality opponents where Brook is undefeated and has only Porter that most of us would call quality.

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          #14
          Originally posted by -PBP- View Post


          Dude wants millions of dollars and wants the fight to be bigger. What does he do about it? Stays inactive since December and returns against Sergio Mora.
          Exactly.... Same as Canelo fighting 154 147 as tune ups....like u really plan on fighting him

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            #15
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
            Isn't waiting a year and a half to maximize revenue the same position GGG is taking relative to Canelo?
            Originally posted by Pain~Lucy View Post
            aha, suits your name
            Isn't he an actual "treasure" on NSB?...

            ... such guys don't even hold the 'sense of ridicule' in their vocabulary...

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              #16
              Let's hope they focus next on Lara and Decubas, who claim they want GG.

              We all know that when you want a fight you normally instruct your management team to do the fight for you. That's why you pay them for such services. Lara and Decubas can't even give Haymon a visit in his office to discuss the fight they want. Meaning, they just use GG's name to promote their Martirosyan and Zaveck type opponent.

              So I hope Loeffler laser-focus on these clowns and let's see what happens.









              .............

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                #17
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                Danny said he will consider the fight when the money is right. While we'd all rather he just fight, if you can reasonably understand GGG's choice of Brook over those you listed, you should be able to judge Danny's position with the same reasoning.
                Danny's not making any big fights. Segio Mora for Danny is not Kell Brook for Golovkin. Danny made $100k to fight Fletcher, he made $550k to fight Mora the first time, then he jumps to $1.5mill vs Quillin, in a fight that didn't sell well (attendace (<8.5k) and tv viewers (386k)). Then he sits out 9 months and signs for a meaningless rematch vs Mora on SpikeTV in Reading, Pennsylvania on a Friday night. Danny was offered $1.5mill to face GGG, that's not chump change for him as he claims.


                Conversely the Brook/Golovkin fight sold all 20k tickets in 11 minutes and will be on ppv. Brook/Golovkin might be a money grab, but that's because Brook has the fan demand behind him. Danny won't ever have that kind of star power unless he takes a fight with Golovkin and wins.



                HBO is not going to risk GGG losing before the Canelo fight. Brook is the same as Khan was relative to Canelo. The difference being Khan had losses but had defeated quality opponents where Brook is undefeated and has only Porter that most of us would call quality.
                Golovkin fighting Brook has nothing to do with HBO protecting Golovkin. Golovkin only took the Brook fight, when those other fights couldn't be made.

                Canelo made a bee-line for Khan. Nobody was turning down a Canelo fight, Canelo could've chose anybody he wanted. Canelo picked Khan as his first and only choice. Canelo didn't make an offer to Golovkin, Saunders, Jacobs, or Eubank.

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                  #18
                  Damn, Team Jacobs, ya'll sounding like you won't dare to be great! Seriously, you realize that if you beat GGG, you are THE MAN!! You can make those big paychecks that you obviously want! "We'll fight anybody!" his coach said over and over. SMDH.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by -PBP- View Post


                    Dude wants millions of dollars and wants the fight to be bigger. What does he do about it? Stays inactive since December and returns against Sergio Mora.
                    Coming off the Quillin demolition, he really should have springboarded to bigger things. Haymon really doesn't know how to build his fighters.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                      I respect both points but GGG has taken step aside money on multiple occasions prior to this fiasco.

                      Yes, GGG has tried to make the other fights. regarding Jacobs, he is waiting to maximize his take. I should have posted this is the same position HBO is taking relative to GGG/Canelo.

                      In taking the Brook fight he is taking an easy fight for the payday to keep undefeated and in position for the big payday.

                      Is it fair to fault the other guys for trying to do same and position themselves for a possible Canelo fight prior to Sept. 2017?
                      He took step aside money while:
                      1) Unifying with Lemieux
                      2) Signing a document to fight Canelo after his voluntary defenses. Yes, there was a document signed.

                      Let's not pretend that Canelo/Cotto wouldn't have vacated earlier if GGG didn't step aside...

                      GGG wanted to fight Canelo and Canelo vacated to avoid the fight, and somehow it's GGG's fault these haters... empty brains.

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