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    #61
    Originally posted by John Locke View Post
    Beating somebody 12-0 makes you terrible now eh? He won every second of every round. The sport is called boxing, not knockouts. He looked very sharp in there, he used his legs, jab, speed, went to the body etc. He dominated the fight and got rounds in, hardly a big deal.

    I don't know how you people can call yourselves boxing fans, I've been posting on here for nearly 4 years and it's getting more ******ed by the day. People just don't understand what they're watching I guess.

    Parker only had 60-70 amateur fights I believe, he's only 25 which is a baby for a heavyweight, he's still learning from every fight. At 23-0 and just 25 years of age, he's already a world champion and beaten better fighters than somebody like Wilder has beaten. Maybe not in the same fashion, but it's not like we haven't seen Wilder outboxed by low level fighters for large periods of fights, before his power bails him out.

    The current crop of heavyweights don't really impress me, but Parker is my favourite (not saying he's the best). He reminds me of Danny Garcia a bit, solid all-round and overlooked. Parker will be around for a while, he's a solid all-round fighter with lots of time on his side.
    Well said.

    I'm absolutely staggered at the amount of overreaction and plain nonsense I'm reading on this thread and elsewhere. Parker should have knocked Cojanu out, but in lieu of that he just blitzkrieged him for twelve rounds and won in a near whitewash while hardly taking a punch in return. It's not the way anyone would have wanted the fight to go, but it was about as emphatic a win as you can get that didn't end inside the distance. It doesn't have any bearing on how a fight with Bellew or Whyte or whoever goes down, and we've already seen Parker beat a solid top ten guy in Takam so the idea that Bellew would beat him is just insane.

    This just looked like a case of fighting down to your opponent and doing just enough to get the win. It sucks that Parker didn't feel the need to press for the knockout and make a statement, but maybe he just wanted to get some rounds in and let the knockout come if it came, or otherwise cruise to a lopsided points decision.

    It's not a make or break fight for him, just something he needed to get out of the way before moving onto bigger things.

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      #62
      If Bellew and Whyte are drawing positives from what they perceive as a negative display these guys are total dumb asses. If Chisora could have put two successive punches together he'd have had Whyte gone, Parker can. Bellew won't take one punch from Parker and stay up.
      Last edited by Jewish-Reptile; 05-12-2017, 06:19 AM.

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        #63
        Originally posted by ScottWeiland View Post
        If Bellew and Whyte are drawing positives from what they perceive as a negative display these guys are total dumb asses. If Chisora could have put two successive punches together he'd have had Whyte gone, Parker can. Bellew won't take one punch from Parker and stay up.
        Thing is, we are talking about a small cruiserweight and a crude C-level fighter as being viable opponents for Parker.

        Why? Because he got handed what were two generous decisions against two fringe contenders in Ruiz and Takam (personally I thought he narrowly beat the former, and narrowly lost to the latter) and anyone better than Bellew or Whyte would take advantage of Parker's wide open defence and make him eat canvas.

        Cojanu was a fat, slow, feather-fisted club fighter that David Price would have knocked out. The only thing Parker's victory over him told us is that Parker lacks anything even approaching elite power. He would be well advised to head to the UK to earn some readies fighting a couple of cans like Dave Allen or Bellew and then cashing out against anyone with a pulse.

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          #64
          He does have wins over Ruiz & Takam. Those are pretty good names on the resume. Hughie Fury sounds like he is still next after the WBO accepted the medical report (Or Fury's gypsy friends making an uninvited stop over at the WBO president's house late at night)...

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            #65
            I fancy Whyte to take out Parker if he gets the chance. Parker hasn't impressed me at all, he sc****d past Takam, and just beat Ruiz. And then couldn't put away a poor Cojanu.

            Only a matter of time until Parker is in trouble against anyone who can ****..

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              #66
              Originally posted by WTF Huck! View Post
              Well said.

              I'm absolutely staggered at the amount of overreaction and plain nonsense I'm reading on this thread and elsewhere. Parker should have knocked Cojanu out, but in lieu of that he just blitzkrieged him for twelve rounds and won in a near whitewash while hardly taking a punch in return. It's not the way anyone would have wanted the fight to go, but it was about as emphatic a win as you can get that didn't end inside the distance. It doesn't have any bearing on how a fight with Bellew or Whyte or whoever goes down, and we've already seen Parker beat a solid top ten guy in Takam so the idea that Bellew would beat him is just insane.

              This just looked like a case of fighting down to your opponent and doing just enough to get the win. It sucks that Parker didn't feel the need to press for the knockout and make a statement, but maybe he just wanted to get some rounds in and let the knockout come if it came, or otherwise cruise to a lopsided points decision.

              It's not a make or break fight for him, just something he needed to get out of the way before moving onto bigger things.
              I agree with a lot of what you've said there, with the exception of the bold.

              Parker hit Cojanu with a lot of shots and a lot of combos in the early to mid rounds (plus the late flurry in the 12th) but didn't really move Cojanu at all so it's debatable as to whether he simply wasn't fussed in getting him out of there or just could not.

              That alone is what's giving Parker a lot of detractors because although his footwork his good, hand speed is fantastic etc if the power isn't really there then he is going to struggle against the likes of AJ and Wilder who have the power to end things well before the distance.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Deus View Post
                I agree with a lot of what you've said there, with the exception of the bold.

                Parker hit Cojanu with a lot of shots and a lot of combos in the early to mid rounds (plus the late flurry in the 12th) but didn't really move Cojanu at all so it's debatable as to whether he simply wasn't fussed in getting him out of there or just could not.

                That alone is what's giving Parker a lot of detractors because although his footwork his good, hand speed is fantastic etc if the power isn't really there then he is going to struggle against the likes of AJ and Wilder who have the power to end things well before the distance.
                That's fair enough, and I agree that Parker did show stretches in which it seemed clear he was trying to end Cojanu. But there were also stretches where he seemed content just to box on the backfoot and take the rounds. Maybe those were just breathers before his next assault and he was genuinely not having any success when he did unload, but I have to say that from his body language it did seem like he was holding back a bit, perhaps out of fear of taking an injury or gassing himself out or something.

                Let me just re-word my initial statement and say that it didn't seem like Parker was absolutely dedicated to getting the stoppage. If he had he would have started throwing with bad intentions from the get go and not let up, always a risky strategy and one which I'm glad Parker didn't employ.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by WTF Huck! View Post
                  That's fair enough, and I agree that Parker did show stretches in which it seemed clear he was trying to end Cojanu. But there were also stretches where he seemed content just to box on the backfoot and take the rounds. Maybe those were just breathers before his next assault and he was genuinely not having any success when he did unload, but I have to say that from his body language it did seem like he was holding back a bit, perhaps out of fear of taking an injury or gassing himself out or something.

                  Let me just re-word my initial statement and say that it didn't seem like Parker was absolutely dedicated to getting the stoppage. If he had he would have started throwing with bad intentions from the get go and not let up, always a risky strategy and one which I'm glad Parker didn't employ.
                  I'll have to watch the fight again but it looked to me as though Parker was pulling most punches except for some big over hand rights he missied throwing a mile away ?

                  I stated before bc these guys were sparing partners training for Hughie ,could have had a plan to make Parker look mediocre for others to underestimate him......look how FAST Hughie all of a sudden jumped back in the picture AFTER the fight? Just a thought and wouldn't put it past team Parker and going 12 for Cojanu would raise his profile even in a loss .

                  I thought Parker looked very good on just the boxing aspect but this really did look like a sparing session . I would think the theatrics by Cojanu in the ring would be strange after being in someones camp prior to fighting Parker , also selling Parker has no power ,etc.. this seems odd to me bc he was also used for Dimentrenko .Parker had some looks on his face after the bell ,like tone it down with the clowning ??? lol

                  Who knows ?
                  Last edited by juggernaut666; 05-13-2017, 08:23 AM.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
                    I'll have to watch the fight again but it looked to me as though Parker was pulling most punches except for some big over hand rights he missied throwing a mile away ?

                    I stated before bc these guys were sparing partners training for Hughie ,could have had a plan to make Parker look mediocre for others to underestimate him......look how FAST Hughie all of a sudden jumped back in the picture AFTER the fight? Just a thought and wouldn't put it past team Parker and going 12 for Cojanu would raise his profile even in a loss .

                    I thought Parker looked very good on just the boxing aspect but this really did look like a sparing session . I would think the theatrics by Cojanu in the ring would be strange after being in someones camp prior to fighting Parker , also selling Parker has no power ,etc.. this seems odd to me bc he was also used for Dimentrenko .Parker had some looks on his face after the bell ,like tone it down with the clowning ??? lol

                    Who knows ?
                    Lately he's not been going all out on punches unless he's in range or has an opponent hurt. I wouldn't exactly say he pulls his shots, but he's much more focused on throwing short compact flurries that return him to his previous stance than one or two big haymakers that throw him out of position a la Wilder or Whyte. Trouble is, sometimes you need to throw those lunging shots to get to taller opponents, but it's not something I feel Parker is particularly keen on, nor possesses the physical dimensions to employ effectively. Despite his flaws he's quite a well schooled guy who instinctively holds back if he feels something might be coming back or that he's exposing himself to unnecessary danger.

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