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    #21
    Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post
    which fighters have showtime officially lost to DAZN?

    im curious

    lol...same old song and dance from the same old fruits.....they want the best fights when its advantageous to their agenda...if its not they are all about "smart business" lol......biggest group of hypocritical flip floppers ive ever seen

    same group yelling "canelo a poosy doe"...."oh ggg just making smart business decisions doe" LOL
    Anthony Joshua.

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      #22
      DAZN is running an unsustainable model right now. You can only toss away more money than you take in for so long.

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        #23
        Originally posted by boliodogs View Post
        What the fuc are you talking about hater? Two of GGG's last opponents were Jacobs and Canelo. Your hero's last three opponents were Berto, Conor and a midget kickboxer. You have no idea who GGG's next opponent is but you accuse him in advance of fighting a bum next because you are just a hater.
        You lying ****. 97G's last opponent before Canelo was Vanes. And:

        Golovkin's June debut with DAZN isn't expected to be against an elite opponent, mostly because of how much money is on the line in a potential fall showdown against Alvarez (or a possible rematch with Jacobs should he win). A June debut for GGG is important for DAZN because it would allow the company to combine his appearance with Joshua's June 1 title defense against Jerrell "Big Baby" Miller in the same one-month free trial for new subscribers.



        97G hasn't given us any reason to doubt that. The coward is in love with fighting tune ups and welterweights

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          #24
          Originally posted by boliodogs View Post
          I love DAZN. But they can't force any boxer to fight another boxer if that boxer does not want that fight. It isn't a dictatorship like Dana White's UFC. If a boxer doesn't want to take any fight for any reason he just says no and signs no contract.
          True, but it's the same way in the UFC. They also have managers and are not obligated to right. There would be no excuses for fighters not to fight each other and they will be shamed. With networks gone and everyone under one platform, it's one less roadblock in making the fights happen Also, I doubt Dazn would pay big money without a clause in the contract telling them they're obligated to fight who they say. I wouldn't be surprised. Example. GGG won't be getting 10 million to fight 6 vanes level opponents.

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            #25
            Originally posted by deanrw View Post
            DAZN is running an unsustainable model right now. You can only toss away more money than you take in for so long.
            Maybe. That's why these fighters need to take advantage of the economic boom currently happening in boxing, albeit temporary, or unsustainable, as you put it. Otherwise, they'll regret it later.

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              #26
              I think that is a bit premature to write Showtime off just yet. It's just that Deontay Wilder was more unconventional than your typical fighter in Al Haymon's stable.

              For one, he is a born rebel, loner and stubborn, who is staunchly independent and couldn't give a good damn what his haters may say, think or care about him.

              Moreover, he is an idealistic visionary who won't settle for anything less than what he wants or feels is right. He's a very complicated man to understand.

              In the interim Showtime just be just fine. Sure, they are going to miss Deontay Wilder moving onto another platform but in the short run they will survive.

              In addition, I don't see Al Haymon losing his grip or strangehold over the rest of PBC stable either. His fighters are yet still steadfastly loyal and adore him.

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                #27
                Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                I think that is a bit premature to write Showtime off just yet. It's just that Deontay Wilder was more unconventional than your typical fighter in Al Haymon's stable.

                For one, he is a born rebel, loner and stubborn, who is staunchly independent and couldn't give a good damn what his haters may say, think or care about him.

                Moreover, he is an idealistic visionary who won't settle for anything less than what he wants or feels is right. He's a very complicated man to understand.

                In the interim Showtime just be just fine. Sure, they are going to miss Deontay Wilder moving onto another platform but in the short run they will survive.

                In addition, I don't see Al Haymon losing his grip or strangehold over the rest of PBC stable either. His fighters are yet still steadfastly loyal and adore him.
                Money will break loyalty fast. All it takes is one or two big stars to leave. The rest will follow.

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                  #28
                  Boxing fans let's not get carried away here. Remember that more boxing is good for the fans. It would be just diastrous and awful, if Showtime's World Championship Boxing would fold; Similarly if ESPN, Fox and DAZN were to close shop too. These platforms are what help keeping the sport alive.

                  However, what I do advocate is a centralized platform where all the promoters can come together and make the fights that us boxing fans want to see because the more platforms we have the less chance we will see the best fighters fighting the best.

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                    #29
                    I'm not sure DAZN will be sustainable with the type of contracts they're handing out. But I also think that Showtime is pretty much finished.

                    It'll be ESPN and FOX in the long run.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by satiev1 View Post
                      Money will break loyalty fast. All it takes is one or two big stars to leave. The rest will follow.
                      No, I disagree. Wilder is unique. He is man of great conviction, determination, sheer will, valor, honor and dignity.

                      He is and has always been a maverick. He dances to the beat of his own drum and won't toe the company line.

                      He is a cynic by nature who no one can control. He trusts nobody. He is the lone dissenter; Which is why this DAZN deal is even possible in the first place because of his independent nature.

                      Also, keep in mind that just because Wilder and his team are meeting with John Skipper later in the week doesn't necessarily mean that he will sign right away. Knowing Deontay Wilder these negotiations can drag on for several weeks or even months or not even signed at all.

                      If he doesn't like what they are offering or get exactly what he wants, then he is liable to scoot right back over to Showtime again. That's the kind of man he is.

                      He won't crawl, beg, break or bend.

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