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    Which heavyweight title lineage do you consider the most prestigious?

    wba world heavyweight champions (1962-present)
    floyd patterson
    sonny liston
    muhammad ali (stripped)
    ernie terrell
    muhammad ali (stripped)
    jimmy ellis
    joe frazier
    george foreman
    muhammad ali
    leon spinks
    muhammad ali (vacated)
    john tate
    mike weaver
    michael dokes
    gerrie coetzee
    greg page
    tony tubbs
    tim witherspoon
    bonecrusher smith
    mike tyson
    buster douglas
    evander holyfield
    rid**** bowe
    evander holyfield
    michael moorer
    george foreman (stripped)
    bruce seldon
    mike tyson
    evander holyfield
    lennox lewis (stripped)
    evander holyfield
    john ruiz
    roy jones jr. (vacated)
    john ruiz
    nikolai valuev
    ruslan chagaev (stripped)
    nikolai valuev
    david haye (vacated)
    alexander povetkin (vacated)
    ruslan chagaev (stripped)
    manuel charr


    wbc world heavyweight champions (1963-present)
    sonny liston
    muhammad ali (stripped)
    joe frazier
    george foreman
    muhammad ali
    leon spinks (stripped)
    ken norton
    larry holmes (vacated)
    tim witherspoon
    pinklon thomas
    trevor berbick
    mike tyson
    buster douglas
    evander holyfield
    rid**** bowe (stripped)
    lennox lewis
    oliver mccall
    frank bruno
    mike tyson (vacated)
    lennox lewis
    hasim rahman
    lennox lewis (vacated)
    vitali klitschko (vacated)
    hasim rahman
    oleg maskaev
    samuel peter
    vitali klitschko (vacated)
    bermane stiverne
    deontay wilder


    ibf world heavyweight champions (1983-present)
    larry holmes
    michael spinks (stripped)
    tony tucker
    mike tyson
    buster douglas
    evander holyfield
    rid**** bowe
    evander holyfield
    michael moorer
    george foreman (vacated)
    francois botha (stripped)
    michael moorer
    evander holyfield
    lennos lewis
    hasim rahman
    lennox lewis (vacated)
    chris byrd
    wladimir klitschko
    tyson fury (stripped)
    charles martin
    anthony joshua
    andy ruiz jr.


    wbo world heavyweight champions (1989-present)
    francesco damiani
    ray mercer (stripped)
    michael moorer (vacated)
    tommy morrison
    michael bentt
    herbie hide
    rid**** bowe (vacated)
    henry akinwande (vacated)
    herbie hide
    vitali klitschko
    chris byrd
    wladimir klitschko
    corrie sanders (vacated)
    lamon brewster
    sergey liakhovich
    shannon briggs
    sultan ibragimov
    wladimir klitschko
    tyson fury (vacated)
    joseph parker
    anthony joshua
    andy ruiz jr.


    super wba world heavyweight champions (2011-present)
    wladimir klitschko
    tyson fury (vacated)
    anthony joshua
    andy ruiz jr.

    #2
    we only doing ABC titles? Not gonna throw down the Ring belt? Still means a lot to a lot of people.

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      #3
      Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
      we only doing ABC titles? Not gonna throw down the Ring belt? Still means a lot to a lot of people.
      Ring Magazine is a magazine, not a boxing league. The mythical lineal title still means a lot to a lot of people, but Ring Magazine has confirmed many times that their title no longer has anything to do with the lineal title. Ring Magazine is now owned by a boxing promoter, who changed the rules to favor his interests, eliminating any association with the lineal title. Further, Ring Magazine didn't recognize a heavyweight champion between 1988 and 2002. They also haven't recognized a heavyweight champion the past two years. Hard to analyze historical lineage when a magazine so inconsistently decides whether to recognize champions or not.

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        #4
        Definately gonna be between wba and wbc due to longevity imo . Ibf has a good roster but misses a few eras. I dunno man this is a good post . I'll have to do some serious thinking to honestly answer this

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          #5
          I think the WBA for me, mostly because of very selfish reasons! I think Ali became infamous on his beatdown of Terrell for the WBA (and WBC) titles and it was also the HW title that Jones won I found that quite a remarkable feat, even if he wasn't beating the very best HW around.

          As a side note, you have john ruiz on there twice and no klitchko / aj

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            #6
            Originally posted by Articulateboxin View Post
            I think the WBA for me, mostly because of very selfish reasons! I think Ali became infamous on his beatdown of Terrell for the WBA (and WBC) titles and it was also the HW title that Jones won I found that quite a remarkable feat, even if he wasn't beating the very best HW around.
            Both examples you listed actually hurt the WBA's prestige in my opinion. The WBC lineage is Liston, Ali, Frazier. The WBA's is Liston, Ali, Terrell, Ali, Ellis, Frazier.

            If the WBA wasn't so quick to strip Ali and wasn't so quick to crown undeserving champions, you wouldn't have all of those extra reigns.

            As for Roy Jones, yes it's impressive that he won a heavyweight title, but it also shows what a joke the WBA had become by then. John Ruiz was terrible and is a two time WBA world heavyweight champion. Ridiculous.


            As a side note, you have john ruiz on there twice and no klitchko / aj
            Ruiz won the WBA title twice. As for Klitschko and AJ, they won the Super WBA title and are listed with the Super WBA champions underneath the WBO in my post.

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              #7
              I only had 15 min to review the lists and I think it's really close. Very close lists between the wb and wbc these two are way ahead imo . I roke it down into 4 eras so it was easier to analyze .I thought the first era ( liston to alis second reign ) the wba took it , they had a few more great fighters rep them as champ . The second era ( spinks thru tyson ) I have to go with the wbc . Less fighters but more quality ones . The third era ( tyson thru lewis second reign ) I have to give to the wba . Just more top names there. The fourth era ( post lewis gets a little more complicated .....if I include the super title in the wba rankings I give it to them , but just comparing the wba and wbc lineages listed i have to go with the wbc ).....so that's 2 a peice broken down into 4 "eras "going off your lists posted ( however I would have 3-1 wba if I included the super champs in the lineage and removed the bogus regular titles etc , which is how it should be imo ). . That being said I think the wba has the most impressive lineage going off the way I see things ( not recognizing regular champs unless under special circumstance ). However based off these lists I vote a tie between wba and wbc for number one , then ibf then wbo . .....this was a fairly basic breakdown I did not include details of the wins ( eg. Significance ,both opponents age , this could get alot more technical but that is another day lol), and I did it off the top of my head based off the original post . Fun times. Good post . Iam sure I'll be back .
              Last edited by NORMNEALON; 12-04-2019, 12:45 AM.

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                #8
                My last post being said if I where to go off quality over quantity opposed to who has more worthy names on their list I would be picking the wbc ....so much criteria to consider really . Again .good post

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                  Both examples you listed actually hurt the WBA's prestige in my opinion. The WBC lineage is Liston, Ali, Frazier. The WBA's is Liston, Ali, Terrell, Ali, Ellis, Frazier.

                  If the WBA wasn't so quick to strip Ali and wasn't so quick to crown undeserving champions, you wouldn't have all of those extra reigns.
                  Well I thought he was stripped because he refused to enlist in the war? He would have been stripped of every belt, that isn't a WBA thing is it? (please correct me if i'm wrong)

                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post

                  Ruiz won the WBA title twice. As for Klitschko and AJ, they won the Super WBA title and are listed with the Super WBA champions underneath the WBO in my post.
                  Ahhhh, I hope you edit this list if and when WBC make Wilder Franchise

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                    #10
                    The lineal title is the only one that matters and it is presently vacant.

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