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Would Joshua be able to run for all 12 rounds against Wilder? Or outbox Fury?

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    #41
    Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
    Because he did what he had to do against a style that was clearly horrible for him.

    Even you should be able to see that.

    You're talking like AJs hasn't demonstrated tremendous power and skills against much higher level opposition than Wilder has fought his whole career.
    So he was wary of Andy Ruiz' power but won't be as gunshy against Wilder? Is that what you're saying?

    I'm just trying to understand your position.

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      #42
      Originally posted by HeadBodyBodyBody View Post
      This is exactly how I feel about it. Wilder still gets to him, and Fury makes him look silly
      like fury did to Otto Wallin GTFOH mickey.
      Ruiz is solid and very dangerous at close quarters and for what ever reason it was Joshua took his eye of the ball in the 1st fight and went in for the kill and paid for it.
      Joshua will not make the mistake against either fury or wilder.
      Fury cannot hurt Joshua which means Joshua can jump all over him and wilder has zero boxing ability who relies on one punch which means Joshua can box rings around him before wilder makes one missed haymaker and Joshua pops him.
      Ortiz was slow and ponderous and was still out boxing wilder till he got caught.
      Joshua will and I say this to you again beat either wilder or fury when they decide to to take this huge money fight and I’ll lay what ever wage you want on it Burgess Meredith

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        #43
        People can't see the difference between running at the end of a jab and outboxing... Both will work at some point, one in a more fashionable way...

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          #44
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
          So he was wary of Andy Ruiz' power but won't be as gunshy against Wilder? Is that what you're saying?

          I'm just trying to understand your position.
          Ruiz is technically light years ahead of wilder in term of combination punching and inside fighting and he is also 4 stone heavier than wilder.
          Joshua is on a different level to wilder in terms of boxing ability period ,
          Wilder was schooled by fury and really should have lost his belts but he was saved by your corrupt American judging system.
          Joshua will box wilder and when wilder go’s off balance Joshua will nail him and finish him.
          Wilder really needs to step up his game and stop fighting easy touches and that’s why Joshua last night earnt double the amount than wiilder has made in his entire career.
          How f@cking embarrassing lol

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            #45
            Wilder has two styles of fighting:

            Long distance jabbing a la Stiverne 1, but only seems to work against lower tier opponents who plod

            and of course, mid-long distance haymakers, but losing rounds along the way

            The first style isn’t going to work well against Joshua who can actually move and counter well

            and the second, I can see Joshua developing a strategy where he will stay on the inside and throw the small hooks

            Wilder only has to land 1 bomb, but so does Joshua, and I think most people would agree that Joshua has the strategic and ability advantages

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              #46
              Oddly enough, I don't think AJ can evade Wilder for 12 rounds but.....
              If he boxes Fury like he boxed last night, he can have an easy night's work.

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                #47
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                So he was wary of Andy Ruiz' power but won't be as gunshy against Wilder? Is that what you're saying?

                I'm just trying to understand your position.
                He was wary of being caught in the inside with those short combinations. To combat it, he developed a beautiful game plan to neutralise anything Ruiz had

                He doesn’t need to worry about Wilders inside game because he literally doesn’t have one. Joshua needs to be wary of the mid-long distance haymakers, but we know Joshua can fight on the inside, which I’m sure his focus will be

                The question is more on Wilder, on how he will respond to an inside fight where one left hook will be the end of the fight

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                  #48
                  No and no.

                  Fighting off the back foot would be suicide vs Wilder. He is just giving him time and space to find that right hand. He would surely have to step to him and make it a fight. Wilder doesnt exchange like Ruiz does, he doesnt counter inbetween your shots, AJ would be able to open up much more comfortably vs Wilder than he could vs Ruiz. Wilder could knock Joshua out at any time, but Ive not got any doubt that Joshua hits hard enough to stop Wilder as well.

                  Fury is a horrible horrible style for Joshua, and most HWs, and Joshua is not outboxing him. Wilder has a better chance because he has genuine one punch power, Joshua would have to hurt Tyson and then come back with more to get him out of there, and Fury has great survival instincts as he showed vs Deontay.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                    So he was wary of Andy Ruiz' power but won't be as gunshy against Wilder? Is that what you're saying?

                    I'm just trying to understand your position.
                    ITs different though isnt it? Ruiz is an aggressive counter puncher. He was able to draw Joshua into exchanges and punish him for it. Wilder just doesnt fight like that at all. Look how he reacted to being hurt by Ortiz (first fight) compared to how Ruiz reacted to being KD'd?

                    Wilder is hella dangerous from range, Joshua would be crazy to try a Fury esque game plan. But he can get into him and beat him with shorter tighter shots. Its very dangerous to get into that range, but if he gets there I think he knocks Wilder out.

                    Anyone claiming Joshua vs Wilder is an easy pick is crazy imo.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
                      like fury did to Otto Wallin GTFOH mickey.
                      Ruiz is solid and very dangerous at close quarters and for what ever reason it was Joshua took his eye of the ball in the 1st fight and went in for the kill and paid for it.
                      Joshua will not make the mistake against either fury or wilder.
                      Fury cannot hurt Joshua which means Joshua can jump all over him and wilder has zero boxing ability who relies on one punch which means Joshua can box rings around him before wilder makes one missed haymaker and Joshua pops him.
                      Ortiz was slow and ponderous and was still out boxing wilder till he got caught.
                      Joshua will and I say this to you again beat either wilder or fury when they decide to to take this huge money fight and I’ll lay what ever wage you want on it Burgess Meredith
                      you know what you are?








































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