The haters have hated for 5 years and Wilder is still the champion.

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... Wanheng Menayothin (54-0) is the WBC world champion since 2014, and he defended his belt no less than 12 times...

Who would win in a boxing match, Wilder or Menayothin?

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You said "the entire sport".

Well done for adding ***ist P.o.S to your title.

Wilder is the champion of the sport of boxing. The heavyweight champion is the champion of the highest class. The women's champion is the champion of a lower class. The heavyweight champion is the champion of boxing, the women's champion is the champion of a specific group of boxers who have been separated because they wouldn't have a fair chance to win otherwise.

[Leonbus2]

Wilder has been the world champion of the entire sport of boxing for five years now. The unified NYSAC/IBU/NSC heavyweight champion of the world, tracing back over a hundred years. He's made ten successful defenses and next month he attempts to become the lineal world heavyweight champion as well.

Is this why he is so hated? Nobody expected him to come this far, so everybody feels ****** for assuming he would fail?

Sure the trolls will cry and say he's protected or hasn't fought top fighters, but Boxrec proves that's complete bull****. Until recently, he was #1 in the world in the computerized rankings and even now he is #2. Which would be literally impossible if he'd been protected and hadn't fought top fighters. The Boxrec computers don't care about belts or hype. They just analyze the results of every fight on the planet and assign points based on your level of competition.

If Wilder knocks out Fury and becomes the lineal heavyweight champion of the world, what will the haters say then?

The hatred goes back even further than 5 years. It goes back to when little Deontay was told by his first grade teacher that he wouldn't amount to anything in life. And boy, did he proved Mrs. Stepanski wrong!

Then there was his Social Studies teacher in 7th grade, who when Deontay couldn't remember the state capital of Georgia, again, told pubescent Deontay, "you will never amount to anything in your life".

After that it was a local sharecropper who further tried to discourage Deontey.

Now, look at him! King of the Heavyweights!

[OnlytheTruth]

I'm not claiming anything. It's easily verifiable fact. Look it up yourself.

You started the thread claiming Wilder was Champion of the entire sport.

That is NOT a fact.

[OnlytheTruth]

Wilder is the champion of the sport of boxing. The heavyweight champion is the champion of the highest class. The women's champion is the champion of a lower class. The heavyweight champion is the champion of boxing, the women's champion is the champion of a specific group of boxers who have been separated because they wouldn't have a fair chance to win otherwise.

Wilder is not the undisputed Heavyweight Champ. He's not even a Unified Champ. He's one of two champs.

He holds 25% of the Heavyweight Champion of the World title.

Oh so women are now a lower class!? Keep on digging. I bet there are plenty of female boxers out there that would put you to sleep. Get over it.

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Wilder is not the undisputed Heavyweight Champ. He's not even a Unified Champ. He's one of two champs.

He holds 25% of the Heavyweight Champion of the World title.

Wilder holds the real world title and 75% of the historical major championships.

Oh so women are now a lower class!? Keep on digging. I bet there are plenty of female boxers out there that would put you to sleep. Get over it.

Are you suggesting that the women's champion would defeat the men's champion? Or is it a lower division created to make things fair for a subset of fighting incapable of defeating the higher class?

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Fury will retire Wilder by 2021 ,then most wont have to deal with his antics other then posters like this creative threads that are reminders why Wilders not actually liked . If he’s struggling to defend his resume now ,how do you think it will look like when he’s gone ?

[OnlytheTruth]

Wilder holds the real world title and 75% of the historical major championships.
Are you suggesting that the women's champion would defeat the men's champion? Or is it a lower division created to make things fair for a subset of fighting incapable of defeating the higher class?

He has 1 title. FACT.
Just because you hold on to the prestige of the WBC title, doesn't mean it makes it so.
Its no longer good enough to be a 1-belt champion. Its not impressive at all. Joseph Parker did it. Charles Martin did it.

I'm not suggesting anything. You said Wilder was champion of 'the entire sport'. That would include women's boxing. I haven't separated Men and Women out at all, you did that all by yourself.

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He has 1 title. FACT.
Just because you hold on to the prestige of the WBC title, doesn't mean it makes it so.

His one title is a merger of the three most prestigious championships in boxing history, going back over a hundred years to the IBU in 1910.

Its no longer good enough to be a 1-belt champion. Its not impressive at all. Joseph Parker did it. Charles Martin did it.

Not all belts are created equal. Parker's WBO title isn't a fully recognized title. Martin's IBF title is a splintering of the WBA title. You have to unify the WBA, IBF and WBO just to piece the WBA back together again and be the equivalent of WBA champions of the past before the WBA split into 3.

You said Wilder was champion of 'the entire sport'. That would include women's boxing. I haven't separated Men and Women out at all, you did that all by yourself.

Who is the best tennis player? The men's champion? The women's champion? The wheelchair tennis champion? The 12 year old and under tennis champion? The college tennis champion? If one division is open to EVERYONE, and you're the best of EVERYONE, you're the champion of the sport.

[joe strong]

When Wilder & Fury both came on the scene it took me a long time to take either of them seriously. Wilder was so raw & weighed like 204lbs & Fury was dancing to the ring & calling out the Klitschkos after his 2nd fight. Then he punched himsef in the face followed by a gift decision over John McDermott. I thought he lost that fight. Fury then got dropped by Steve Cunningham & by light punching but extremely tough Neven Pajkic. That fight was stopped prematurely & he never gave him a rematch. Pajkic was so pissed he quit boxing after one more fight to become a stuntman. Wilder got dropped by Harold Sconiers then was involved in a Charlie Zelenoff video. I shook my head at both these guys. I predicted Stiverne would crush Wilder in their first fight after beating Ray Austin & Arreola twice. Wilder beat Stiverne to a pulp for 12 rounds. When I look back what he did to the normally durable Scott & Liahkovich should have been an eye opener to all doubters including myself but I was still skeptical going into the Stiverne fight. He has ended every fight early since except for the Fury fight which I scored a draw. (113-113) as I had it 7-5 Fury. I started taking Fury seriously when he fought Martin Rogan in the southpaw stance for the entire fight. Nobody saw that coming especially Rogan. He pummelled him & not once did he go back to the orthodox stance. That is when I realized how skilled he actually was. He beat Hammer, made Chisora quit on his stool & then beat Wladimir. I now think they are the 2 best HWs on the planet. They both have my respect & I have no problems admitting I was so wrong about both of these guys when they came onto the scene...