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    #11
    Originally posted by Szef View Post
    He beat an ATG in Klitschko in Germany and Wilder in USA.

    Joshua had a panic attack and got KO'ed when he fought abroad, Wilder beat the mighty Audley Harrison.

    Whether you like it or not, Fury is the best heavyweight in the post Klitschko era.
    ... The "gypsy clown" beat Wlad in Germany (and don't forget the mattress and gloves issues that were included)... The "gypsy clown" got up from the deck and brawled Wilder in the 12th... That's enough for a"gypsy clown", I guess...

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      #12
      Originally posted by Szef View Post
      He beat an ATG in Klitschko in Germany and Wilder in USA.

      Joshua had a panic attack and got KO'ed when he fought abroad, Wilder beat the mighty Audley Harrison.

      Whether you like it or not, Fury is the best heavyweight in the post Klitschko era.
      Fury has no title defenses ,you base value on that ,he is better then Wilder though because he has a unofficial win .

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        #13
        Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
        Fury has no title defenses ,you base value on that ,he is better then Wilder though because he has a unofficial win .
        He also has no Ls against huge underdogs.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Szef View Post
          He also has no Ls against huge underdogs.
          That doesn’t put a title around his waist. No non champion is ever the best of his era, definitely not over a unified one who will add more title defenses to his resume . AJ will defeat Fury as well .

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            #15
            Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
            That doesn’t put a title around his waist. No non champion is ever the best of his era, definitely not over a unified one who will add more title defenses to his resume . AJ will defeat Fury as well .
            He has better wins than Joshua and is widely considered the better fighter.

            I can't take a guy who hasn't made a single correct prediction since joining this place despite making plenty of them so this new one^ isn't really worth much to me. Maybe Joshua will beat Fury. Maybe he won't. But for the time being I rate Fury and Wilder higher than him.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Szef View Post
              He beat an ATG in Klitschko in Germany and Wilder in USA.

              Joshua had a panic attack and got KO'ed when he fought abroad, Wilder beat the mighty Audley Harrison.

              Whether you like it or not, Fury is the best heavyweight in the post Klitschko era.
              Joshua knocked out Klitchsko so what’s your point.
              All fury has to do is beat Joshua and prove it , he won’t because he knows Joshua will level him.
              And it’s going to be fury’s highest purse double over wilder.
              Same goes for wilder as well.
              Quite easily another ref could have counted out and that would have been a KO loss for fury.
              When Joshua kos Pulev and usyk and fury and wilder are still refusing to fight aj then it’s written in stone neither wants to fight Joshua.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Szef View Post
                He also has no Ls against huge underdogs.
                there are underdogs and then there are bums.....seferi,Schwarz,pianeta,wallin are all bums who if boxed Andy Ruiz would all be knocked out.
                You defending a pathetic resume like fury’s shows you what a compete European cretin you are.

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                  #18
                  Tyson Fury wins WBA, WBO, IBF and IBO belts. Lineal was never mentioned at the time by anyone.
                  Tyson Fury has IBF stripped from him.
                  Tyson Fury retires before being stripped further.
                  Almost 3 years later Tyson Fury returns, claiming he is lineal.
                  Tyson Fury further stakes a claim for lineal status by struggling to wins over SEFERI and PIANETA.
                  Tyson Fury draws with Wilder.
                  Tyson Fury further stakes a claim for lineal status by beating Schwarz and luckily getting a win against Wallin.
                  Tyson Fury competes in WWE ring against Browman.

                  A true lineal champion demonstrating to absolutely nobody he is deserving of such status and has justified to absolutely no doubters that he should be considered as such.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Szef View Post
                    He has better wins than Joshua and is widely considered the better fighter.

                    I can't take a guy who hasn't made a single correct prediction since joining this place despite making plenty of them so this new one^ isn't really worth much to me. Maybe Joshua will beat Fury. Maybe he won't. But for the time being I rate Fury and Wilder higher than him.
                    Still doesn't change that fact that fury has no title defence so he can't be best of his era ahead of a unified champ.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
                      Joshua knocked out Klitchsko so what’s your point.
                      All fury has to do is beat Joshua and prove it , he won’t because he knows Joshua will level him.
                      And it’s going to be fury’s highest purse double over wilder.
                      Same goes for wilder as well.
                      Quite easily another ref could have counted out and that would have been a KO loss for fury.
                      When Joshua kos Pulev and usyk and fury and wilder are still refusing to fight aj then it’s written in stone neither wants to fight Joshua.
                      Joshua beat Wlad coming off 2 year break.
                      Fury beat Wlad when he was the #1. Joshua didn't.
                      There's no question here who of the two has the best win. Joshua's resume is very good of course but
                      Fury better big wins than Joshua and he did it on their home turf unlike aj who always had the home advantage. We all saw what happened to Joshua when he was out of his comfort zone. Fury is the better fighter, with better big wins and is also mentally tougher until proven otherwise.



                      Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
                      there are underdogs and then there are bums.....seferi,Schwarz,pianeta,wallin are all bums who if boxed Andy Ruiz would all be knocked out.
                      You defending a pathetic resume like fury’s shows you what a compete European cretin you are.
                      Andy Ruiz was a late replacement and a huge underdog. Doesn't matter that'd he'd beat the guys fury fought (and it's not a given that he would). Joshua was supposed to ko him and make his grand arrival at the US scene.

                      And it wasn't a lucky KO, he got systemically beaten up and broken by an obese man who doesnt take training seriously. Joshua's stock dropped significantly and despite outpointing and getting his belts back he's the #3 right now.

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