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The Ring: Spence/Pacquiao could result in lineal welterweight champion being crowned

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    #41
    Originally posted by Larry_Rushmore View Post
    wtf kinda foolishness did you just post??? you said Manny beat Bradley for lineage but lost it because Floyd retired??? wow, just wow..that is not how it works at all....Manny retired after Bradley and that is why TBRB stripped him of the lineage..Floyd had nothing to do with that lineage period..come on man
    Originally posted by Larry_Rushmore View Post
    According to TBRB Crawford should really be lineal champ
    First of all, TBRB is a bunch of random dudes. They do NOT qualify lineal, they have no credibility as recently posted (having Inoue #1 despite beating nobody, refusing to rank Horn after beating Manny despite The Ring doing it, punishing Canelo for his performance against G but not punishing Crawford for his performance, ranking Usyk despite poor performances at heavyweight, etc).

    Second, that's not what I said.

    I said, Manny fought Bradley for lineal BUT could not hold The Ring because Floyd still held it. Which was in response to your faulty question about "Well Manny didn't hold Ring at 147" - he couldn't, Floyd still had it, but Manny/Bradley was 1 and 2, thus opening up lineal anyway.

    Next time, READ what I'm writing instead of overreacting.

    Listen, I understand. You were hoping that your pick for FOTD, Adrien Broner, would become lineal at welterweight and he failed you. I get it.

    But this is about Errol Spence and Manny Pacquiao. The conversation needs to stay with those two, The Ring and RECOGNIZED lineal (outside of the NSB bubble).

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      #42
      Everybody wants to fight Manny because they know he will bring the money to the purse. Spence and Crawford won't fight each other because they don't feel they can generate enough money to make the fight worthwhile so they want Manny. I hope Manny agrees to either fight....with Manny getting 70 and them getting 30. Keep what you kill

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        #43
        Originally posted by revelated View Post
        First of all, TBRB is a bunch of random dudes. They do NOT qualify lineal, they have no credibility as recently posted (having Inoue #1 despite beating nobody, refusing to rank Horn after beating Manny despite The Ring doing it, punishing Canelo for his performance against G but not punishing Crawford for his performance, ranking Usyk despite poor performances at heavyweight, etc).

        Second, that's not what I said.

        I said, Manny fought Bradley for lineal BUT could not hold The Ring because Floyd still held it. Which was in response to your faulty question about "Well Manny didn't hold Ring at 147" - he couldn't, Floyd still had it, but Manny/Bradley was 1 and 2, thus opening up lineal anyway.

        Next time, READ what I'm writing instead of overreacting.

        Listen, I understand. You were hoping that your pick for FOTD, Adrien Broner, would become lineal at welterweight and he failed you. I get it.

        But this is about Errol Spence and Manny Pacquiao. The conversation needs to stay with those two, The Ring and RECOGNIZED lineal (outside of the NSB bubble).
        They're former Ring staff actually.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post
          They're former Ring staff actually.
          Yeah. Bitter and biased just like Ring.

          One of them replies to comments, he straight up had the nerve to say that Canelo was passed over because Inoue "looked better" (against regular competition). That's not adding credibility when you say that crap yet have Teofimo, Fury, and Spence (who ALL looked impressive against Top 5 competition in their last fights) at 5 and below. And Canelo whose resume destroys everyone else on the list. COMBINED.

          They're the 'eye test' rating system and even that's flawed by having Canelo over Crawford?! Usyk over Teofimo??

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            #45
            Originally posted by revelated View Post
            Yeah. Bitter and biased just like Ring.

            One of them replies to comments, he straight up had the nerve to say that Canelo was passed over because Inoue "looked better" (against regular competition). That's not adding credibility when you say that crap yet have Teofimo, Fury, and Spence (who ALL looked impressive against Top 5 competition in their last fights) at 5 and below. And Canelo whose resume destroys everyone else on the list. COMBINED.

            They're the 'eye test' rating system and even that's flawed by having Canelo over Crawford?! Usyk over Teofimo??
            I agree, they're bull****.

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              #46
              Nope... It would be Spence vs. Crawford which will crown a new champ...

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                #47
                Originally posted by thedarkdragon11 View Post
                Nope... It would be Spence vs. Crawford which will crown a new champ...
                Once again. That fight will NOT happen before Spence/Pacquiao. Pac is still PBC, easy to make fight.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by revelated View Post
                  Who retired while holding it Manny picked it up (vacant) by beating Bradley.

                  Absolute BS lmao.

                  If Floyd doesn't lose it in the ring it can only be re attained through dominance. Crawford is #1 in the division so Spence beating Pac or Pac beating Spence doesn't crown either of them lineal.

                  Nice try though slick.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post

                    Crawford is #1 in the division
                    The Ring doesn't agree with you. Spence is #1.

                    The Ring champion is recognized as lineal.

                    The Ring will allow Spence to fight Manny for its title.

                    WHEN that fight happens the winner will be RECOGNIZED as lineal by those that matter.


                    Crawford isn't in the conversation because he sat out and refused to make quality fights with Keef and Porter for too long.

                    Meanwhile Spence just beat two Top 5 welterweights, back to back, while Crawford beat one guy that was completely unranked and got dropped by the other.

                    At some point dude, you're going to need to recognize Spence is the real top dog. He calls the shots and Crawford needs to accept his B-Side status before that fight happens.

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                      #50
                      PAC about to TKO Spence at age 44.

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