Prime Tyson could have been the best ever??

[Thunder Lips]

Again, I maintain that Tyson fought very well in the Holyfield fights; probably the best he ever fought in his second career. Watch the early rounds, Tyson is pulling quick sneaky combinations out of his ass and I doubt anybody not named Holyfield would have been caught with them. Watch how sneaky that right hand slip is, and remember that was a killer punch for Tyson that could finish most anybody. Tyson looked great but Holyfield was simply greater. Holyfield may have been on the decline but he pulled off two remarkable swansong performances(unless you count the destruction of a hungry but fat Moorer); near flawless though the first fight is hardly as one sided as people seem to make out these days.

Yes, Holyfield does get rocked in the 4th round of the first fight, though not close to getting knocked out; he is cleary hurt and shaking up. Tyson catches him with a hard combos to the body and the head that buckle his knees quite a bit. Holyfield fought a near perfect fight but Tyson still got some tough shots in throughout.

And old man Foreman would have got the **** beat out of him by Tyson. Hell, another small heavy in Moorer was beating the **** out of Foreman before he ignored his corner's warnings of the loaded right hand. Foreman had a brave, inspired performance against Holyfield and he knocked out Cooper but he lost to Morrison and got pounded by journeyman for the rest of his second career until the Briggs fight. Please.

[The Iron Man]

Um, he never rocks Holyfield during the whole fight. (At least Holyfield doesn't show it)

He out-boxed, clinched at the right times, used the ring way better, and wasn't even wobbled by that one really awesome combo (round 8 I believe).

He beat Tyson at his own game.

Never got rocked..watch round five, tyson hits him hurts him and Holyfield moves off and tyson dnt come forward. They come back together he hits him again Hurts "The Real Deal" but doent finish like he used to. He lost his Killer Instinct.




Look Tyson even rocked him in the 10th, but he didnt finish aswell as he had done before prison

[StarshipTrooper]

Never got rocked..watch round five, tyson hits him hurts him and Holyfield moves off and tyson dnt come forward. They come back together he hits him again Hurts "The Real Deal" but doent finish like he used to. He lost his Killer Instinct.




Look Tyson even rocked him in the 10th, but he didnt finish aswell as he had done before prison

I fear once again Tyson KoolAid is being consumed. It's a well known fact of nature that Tyson nuthuggers see only what they want to see when viewing his fights.

Poet

[The Iron Man]

Are You Kidding? even the commentators agree..some people just dnt like given tyson credit..yeh Holyfield was the better fight i aint dis*****g im just saying how tysons Skills had diminished, they even say in rnd 10..tyson dosent have that Killer Instinct any more

Heres a good read for you :

[StarshipTrooper]

Are You Kidding? even the commentators agree..some people just dnt like given tyson credit..yeh Holyfield was the better fight i aint dis*****g im just saying how tysons Skills had diminished, they even say in rnd 10..tyson dosent have that Killer Instinct any more

Heres a good read for you :

The commentators for that fight were shamelessly pro-Tyson. Pachecho turned around in the middle of the fight but Albert and Czyz continued sucking Tyson's nuts right until the end.

Poet

[The Iron Man]

It's a well known fact of nature that Anti-Tyson People see only what they want to see when viewing his fights.

Read that article?

[StarshipTrooper]

It's a well known fact of nature that Anti-Tyson People see only what they want to see when viewing his fights.

Read that article?

Read Steve Farhood's article covering the fight in Ring Magazine? The fight he was watching was a LOT different from the one YOU were seeing. When was the last time you watched the fight BTW? Not selected highlights, the WHOLE fight?

Poet

[The Iron Man]

Cant have been too Long ago..i have all of tysons fights since berbick and up to Andrew Golota. You say he saw a fight differnt from what i saw..yet the commentators and That article both agree with me..hmm but yet im the one seeing the fight incorrectly.

[StarshipTrooper]

It's a well known fact of nature that Anti-Tyson People see only what they want to see when viewing his fights.

Read that article?

Cant have been too Long ago..i have all of tysons fights since berbick and up to Andrew Golota. You say he saw a fight differnt from what i saw..yet the commentators and That article both agree with me..hmm but yet im the one seeing the fight incorrectly.

I'll do you better. I have EVERY Tyson fight from his pro debut to the McBride fight. A point of fact is I'm not a Tyson hate: I have nothing against Tyson himself. It's his delusional, KoolAid drinking, nuthugging fans I don't care for. Too many bought into that BS hype from back in the 80s, that he was some unstoppable force. It was all horse pucky, an illusion, a fighter who NEVER existed. Here we are twenty years later and STILL people are worshipping the fighter who never was. And yes, they see what they want to see. The truth is, Tyson fought reasonably well the first four rounds but at NO time did he have Holyfield in trouble and at best he split those rounds on the cards. After round 4 Holyfield quite frankly beat Tyson up. And THAT is what anybody who watches the fight objectively will see.

Poet

[The Iron Man]

Yeh im Not denying Holyfield Beat him..in almost every round. But its eveident (esecially if u have every fight) that his Skills Deminished after prison. Wen he first started pro boxing he had the Invinsability tag on him as did Foreman and Liston and of couse no1 can keep that up forever, especially seeing what happend in tysons life. Id like to ask you your Thoughts on what would happen if Tyson Fought Holyfield Pre Prison? and do u agree the tyson that fought holyfield was not as skilled as the one that fought before prison!?