For those who can remember did most Boxing fans believe Mike Tyson was guilty of **** back in '91/'92?

[Willie Pep 229]

He didn't corner Mrs. Washington in a dark alley and forcibly penetrated her. But he likely did refuse to stop after hurting her during what started out as consensual sex. Is there a difference between the two situations? Yes. Does that make him less of a rapist? No.

If we run with your logic where is the point of no return?

Is she free to yell stop (no) right to the point of ejaculation, but once they pass that point Tyson can no longer be prosecuted for ****?

Where is the point she can still say no? Do we count strokes?

I know that sounds silly, absurd, but once she allowed herself, desired to be, penertated it becomes a 'sticky wicket' legally (pun intended).

But actually if you read my post above we pretty much envision the same course of events playing out.

[QueensburyRules]

If we run with your logic where is the point of no return?

Is she free to yell stop (no) right to the point of ejaculation, but once they pass that point Tyson can no longer be prosecuted for ****?

Where is the point she can still say no? Do we count strokes?

I know that sounds silly, absurd, but once she allowed herself, desired to be, penertated it becomes a 'sticky wicket' legally (pun intended).

But actually if you read my post above we pretty much envision the same course of events playing out.

- - Missy Washington allowed herself to be taken to Mike's boudoir after having witnessed his gropings and fondlings of many of the girls who naturally passed around that banter in juicy girlie gossip. And she got what she came for.

Mike's handlers paid off any previous complainants who may have suffered grevious injuries by Mike, but the wholesome without nary baby scratch or booboo in her lovely body was "allowed" to file charges, where again, Mike is represented in court by DKing Tax Attorney, not a criminal attorney.

[Willie Pep 229]

- - Missy Washington allowed herself to be taken to Mike's boudoir after having witnessed his gropings and fondlings of many of the girls who naturally passed around that banter in juicy girlie gossip. And she got what she came for.

Mike's handlers paid off any previous complainants who may have suffered grevious injuries by Mike, but the wholesome without nary baby scratch or booboo in her lovely body was "allowed" to file charges, where again, Mike is represented in court by DKing Tax Attorney, not a criminal attorney.

You got to love Don King . . . "How is going to affect me . . . OH! right, money! We better use our money guy, what's that ***'s name?" - 'But Don he's our tax guy.' - "Right that's the guy I want, get him over to the court and find out what that idiot did and how much this is going to cost."

[BKM-]

If we run with your logic where is the point of no return?

Is she free to yell stop (no) right to the point of ejaculation, but once they pass that point Tyson can no longer be prosecuted for ****?

Where is the point she can still say no? Do we count strokes?

I know that sounds silly, absurd, but once she allowed herself, desired to be, penertated it becomes a 'sticky wicket' legally (pun intended).

But actually if you read my post above we pretty much envision the same course of events playing out.

That's giving him way too much the benefit of the doubt though. He doesn't deserve it with his track record. His only line of defense is that indeed, she came over there on her own free will and knew it was gonna result into sex. But it could have just as easily been a case of her getting scared, changing her mind and refusing to have sex while he was already forcing himself upon her. I would not find the latter far fetched, though the earlier scenario I mentioned is also possible. Either way he ****ed up. Her ******* wounds, the limo driver's testimony and Tyson's track record display this imo.

[Willie Pep 229]

That's giving him way too much the benefit of the doubt though. He doesn't deserve it with his track record. His only line of defense is that indeed, she came over there on her own free will and knew it was gonna result into sex. But it could have just as easily been a case of her getting scared, changing her mind and refusing to have sex while he was already forcing himself upon her. I would not find the latter far fetched, though the earlier scenario I mentioned is also possible. Either way he ****ed up. Her ******* wounds, the limo driver's testimony and Tyson's track record display this imo.

Wait I thought the limo driver was an OJ thing.

What testimony did he bring to the court?

Someone above said she sustained no physical injuries, you say her pus sy was beat up ?

Past history is only suspose to be brought into judgement if there are convictions. Allegations should never enter a court argument.

Actually I am with you on this, I suspect the 'kid' suddenly found herself in deeper than she wanted and Tyson had no intention of stopping.

He was never denied anything in his life except things taken from him by force. That she couldn't do, so he didn't stop.

That's why I think the whole 'Gus' relationship is overblown. He was just another enabler and no one actually taught this kid Tyson that no means no.

[BKM-]

Wait I thought the limo driver was an OJ thing.

What testimony did he bring to the court?

Someone above said she sustained no physical injuries, you say her pus sy was beat up ?

Past history is only suspose to be brought into judgement if there are convictions. Allegations should never enter a court argument.

Actually I am with you on this, I suspect the 'kid' suddenly found herself in deeper than she wanted and Tyson had no intention of stopping.

He was never denied anything in his life except things taken from him by force. That she couldn't do, so he didn't stop.

That's why I think the whole 'Gus' relationship is overblown. He was just another enabler and no one actually taught this kid Tyson that no means no.

The driver said she appeared very distraught. There's also an interview with her father who described seeing her after it happened. She was always warm and hugged him but she stopped since that day becoming cold and fearful of physical contact.
Tyson fans would say these individuals were all in on a conspiracy to take mike down but there you go.

Yes the medical exam concluded that her v aginal condition was consistent with very rough sex. He's 10 times her size and strength, he doesn't need to injure her to **** her.

Anyway, we can also look at hindsight. It's been 3 decades. This woman had nothing to gain and her life to lose. She has changed her identity, didn't get any sort of fame from it and if anyone knows who she is she's known as Tyson's **** victim.

Btw I wanna find out more about Tyson's alleged **** of Bill Cosby's daughter. What a great guy he is.

[Tatabanya]

Bill Cosby's daughter

The credibility of the daughter of a genuine serial rapist is perfectly expressed by this article:

[Willie Pep 229]

The credibility of the daughter of a genuine serial rapist is perfectly expressed by this article:

A drug addiction means she can't be ****d?

We can assume she was not after Tyson's money so what might be her motive for lying?

[Tatabanya]

A drug addiction means she can't be ****d?

We can assume she was not after Tyson's money so what might be her motive for lying?

Generally speaking, I tend not to trust the recollecting abilities of substance abusers. Then again, she went public with this story only after Tyson's conviction.

[Willie Pep 229]

Generally speaking, I tend not to trust the recollecting abilities of substance abusers. Then again, she went public with this story only after Tyson's conviction.

Agree with that. . . Not just bad memory but often an inability to properly assess the world around them at the time. Could be a very truthful, very bad source.

Her timing opens the door to a myriad of possible motives.