Langford vs Greb

[JAB5239]

You wont accept anything negative, not from the corners, the refs, the press, historians, his DQ, or the hall of fame saying he is dirty! You have to be right. All the information I provided is wrong in your mind. Again I don't write it.

Greb was dirty. I gave you an excellent historian to check out who specials in Pennsylvania based fighters. What is Greb part of your ancestry or something? Apologies if this is the case.

You not finding me and quotes on Wlad being dirty or clinching to often by his opponents either, as requested.

I'll give you or anyone interested his web site , and I'm done trying to convince you.

How have I not accepted anything negative, because I stand behind my assertion he was not intentionally dirty?

Greb is neither Italian nor Irish, so I doubt we're related.

I don't need to provide any quotes on Wlad. I've given you video of his dirty tactics. Do i think Wlad is a terri ly dirty fighter? No. There are degrees to be dirty. But he certainly was intentional in the things he did wrong as you can clearly see. We dont have film of Greb, so we are interpreting what others have said about him. I choose to think of him as fouling unintentionally or through retaliation given what I've reas about him. I also choose to put more stock in the fighters who shared time in the ring with him trading punches rather than men looked on from the outside. As someone who has fought and still fights, as well as having been to hundreds of live cards from amateur fights to the heavyweight championship of the world I can can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that the men fighting are far more aware of what's going on in the ring than the people watching.

I accept your opinion, I just happen to disagree with how you choose to Inteprete the information out there. Greb was certainly a rough guy in the ring. Fouls surely occurred. Unlike you, i dont believe they were intentional based on what newspaper writers say. Those guys weren't in the ring.

So yes, please be done trying to convince me, because with the shared information provided by both of us....you cant. Tunney can. Tunney's corner saying Harry didnt intentionally foul can. Loughran and Wiggins can. Men who were not in the ring with him.....if i had no other sources i guess id be forced to be more narrow minded on the topic. Fortunately we do, and i have the right, just as you do to form my own opinion. That you disagree with it is of no consequence to me my friend.

[Dr. Z]

How have I not accepted anything negative, because I stand behind my assertion he was not intentionally dirty?

Greb is neither Italian nor Irish, so I doubt we're related.

I don't need to provide any quotes on Wlad. I've given you video of his dirty tactics. Do i think Wlad is a terri ly dirty fighter? No. There are degrees to be dirty. But he certainly was intentional in the things he did wrong as you can clearly see. We dont have film of Greb, so we are interpreting what others have said about him. I choose to think of him as fouling unintentionally or through retaliation given what I've reas about him. I also choose to put more stock in the fighters who shared time in the ring with him trading punches rather than men looked on from the outside. As someone who has fought and still fights, as well as having been to hundreds of live cards from amateur fights to the heavyweight championship of the world I can can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that the men fighting are far more aware of what's going on in the ring than the people watching.

I accept your opinion, I just happen to disagree with how you choose to Inteprete the information out there. Greb was certainly a rough guy in the ring. Fouls surely occurred. Unlike you, i dont believe they were intentional based on what newspaper writers say. Those guys weren't in the ring.

So yes, please be done trying to convince me, because with the shared information provided by both of us....you cant. Tunney can. Tunney's corner saying Harry didnt intentionally foul can. Loughran and Wiggins can. Men who were not in the ring with him.....if i had no other sources i guess id be forced to be more narrow minded on the topic. Fortunately we do, and i have the right, just as you do to form my own opinion. That you disagree with it is of no consequence to me my friend.

Peace, by the way unless Greb fights outside and uses his rule bending tricks I like Langford via decision here. He's shorter so he won't have to worry as much about accidental heabutts.