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    #51
    Originally posted by cyril layman View Post

    Rocky is at best a cruiser weight.He was 5'10 & had the shortest reach of any HW champion.He came in to the ring maxed out out 188-190.He defeated HW with no names.He beat former Light HW champion Archie moore who knocked Marciano down in i believe the 2nd round which is an insult.Had Marciano fought in the 1960's he would have fought against only 1 champion because there was only 1 belt to fight for (as it should be) so he would have fought against Liston or Ali & would have never won the belt.
    Getting knocked down by the man who had the most knock outs in boxing history is an insult? You must be the type of guy who goes to a Michelan 3 star restaurant like The French laundry and tells the wine stewart "get rid of this old wine...chateau Rothschild and bring me something fresh!"

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      #52
      Originally posted by Bundana View Post

      No, I'm arguing, that we can find many examples of fights, where they didn't give their all. Which is very different from you claiming that "There was no running away and not fighting". As we have seen, there actually were several boxers back then, who failed to put in an effort.

      Yes, your points are easy to understand - which doesn't make them any less ridiculous. Like 188 Marciano "would destroy any heavyweight today" On a list of your most absurd contentions, this one has to be close to the very top! But then again, I doubt this is really your honest opinion... which leaves the question: why on earth would you say something as silly as that??​​
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      he would destroy every heavyweight today. 100p. marciano isn’t losing to anyone currently. Size won’t matter.

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        #53
        I'm a fan of both Louis and Ali. maybe two of the greatest title runs in our sport. Ali of 1967 vs Louis 1941. The difference is ring smarts. Ali knew every trick in the book. He could steal rounds by coming on late in the round. Louis has great power. but did anyone have a better chin than Ali. Ali UD 15.

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