Calzaghe aims at Hopkins' record!

[!!! Beowulf !!!]

Someone should remind Calzaghe that Hopkins fought in a different division. If Calzaghe beats Manfredo, then he'll still be one shy of Sven Ottke's record for super middleweight defenses.

Sorry, but this has to be said every time Ottke is mentioned:


Ottke was/is a fraud.

[!! Mr. Soprano]

Hoe won't go down as the greatest British fighter ever.

he won't surprass wilde, lewis, and fitzsimmons.

wasn't mcguigan irish?

I thought Lewis is Canadian with a British dialect?

[Shanus]

If any of you can tell me how great of a fighter Fitzsimmons was please do so without looking at boxrec, because it'd take a historical boxing fan to know how good he was, I've never seen him fight.. I only know that he was middleweight + a heavyweight champion, he also got KO'd a handful of times.

[Hydro]

If any of you can tell me how great of a fighter Fitzsimmons was please do so without looking at boxrec, because it'd take a historical boxing fan to know how good he was, I've never seen him fight.. I only know that he was middleweight + a heavyweight champion, he also got KO'd a handful of times.

no i am able to tell by the plethora of film footage available of him.

you go by what you can, by reading books and articles of fighters back then.

[Shanus]

no i am able to tell by the plethora of film footage available of him.

you go by what you can, by reading books and articles of fighters back then.

Facts are there is not alot we know to make judgement of him being the best British fighter of all time.. reading is not seeing.

[Hydro]

Facts are there is not alot we know to make judgement of him being the best British fighter of all time.. reading is not seeing.

then u can't rate many fighters in the early days.

regardless, lewis was greater than calzaghe.

hell, even hamed has a reasonable claim at being greater than joe.

[Shanus]

then u can't rate many fighters in the early days.

regardless, lewis was greater than calzaghe.

hell, even hamed has a reasonable claim at being greater than joe.

Hamed didn't accomplish much, just a champion at more than 1 division.

I don't rate fighters which I haven't seen fight, which mainly are fighters who fought in the 1800's.

[Hydro]

Hamed didn't accomplish much, just a champion at more than 1 division.

I don't rate fighters which I haven't seen fight, which mainly are fighters who fought in the 1800's.

hamed beat all 4 major beltholders at 126. he beat robinson when robinson was the wbo titlist and on a hot streak. he beat manuel medina who would later win another world title at 126, and was robbed of another against tapia. he beat tom johnson who was the best featherweight in the world back then and who had made 13 title defenses for the ibf belt. he beat an aging but still dangerous kevin kelley, who still had success afterwards. he beat wilfredo vasquez who was the wba champ. he beat cesar soto for the wbc belt. bungu had made 13 straight defenses of his title and moved up to lose to hamed in 4.

hamed won almost as many title fights as calzaghe, and won more titles, and won his titles by beating titleholders other than winning a vacant belt like calzaghe did against eubank.

[Bozo_no no]

I'm not sure what's more ******ed, this notion as a whole, or the crybaby Calzaghe fans in this thread.

1) Calzaghe's title defenses are just about all WBO. Considering the opposition he fought in that time, and that he didn't (Sven Ottke, Eric Lucas, Markus Beyer, Anthony Mundine, Antwun Echols, Mikkel Kessler, Danny Green)...

any slight suggestion his “reign” is a legitimate one is outright laughable. He had a list of other fighters at 168 he didn’t fight, didn’t unify the titles, and beat one fighter in that time that was remotely on the verge of being considered pound for pound in Lacy.

2) Hopkins reign and career TRUMPS Calzaghe’s. Any suggestion to the contrary is from a blinded insecure homer full of longing for something meaningful.

Hopkins knocked out two legends in Tito and Delahoya, and was the first fighter to beat and only to stop Glenn Johnson. Hopkins also was the 1st fighter in boxing history to unify all FOUR titles in his weight class.

And before you start crying about Oscar and Tito coming up in weight, see Marvin Hagler fighting Tommy Hearns and Roberto Duran. Hopkins also moved straight up to 175 and shut out the Champion to become undisputed at Light Heavyweight.

Also consider how you’re all drooling over the thought of a Calzaghe Taylor fight, where Taylor would be the smaller fighter moving up who hasn’t a third of the accomplishments Tito and Delahoya had.

3) Another outright JOKE in all of this is how Joe’s stating his intention is to break a defense record at 168, when the other two titles are ready and waiting to be a part of that.

How does someone go about breaking a defense record without unifying? Bika and Manfredo are more important fights are they?

Kessler can surely get an extension on fighting his mandatory if there’s a unification fight available. If Calzaghe’s on about breaking a defense record at 168 he should be looking at NOTHING other than Kessler.

Anything else is much like the earlier portion of his career. Hollow, and devoid of substance.

[Easy-E]

WBO super middleweight champion Joe Calzaghe says he plans to surpass former middleweight champion Bernard Hopkins' record of twenty successful title defenses. Calzaghe will equal 'The Executioner's' mark if he defeats Peter Manfredo on March 3, a feat Hopkins has indicated an interest in trying to prevent. "If Bernard Hopkins doesn't want me to break his title defense record, then he should have fought me when he had the chance years ago. Breaking his record? When it comes to fighting me, Bernard Hopkins, like Roy Jones, is a BROKEN record. Just talk, talk, talk. There are a lot of great and exciting fights out there for me, but the only one that means anything to me right now is Peter Manfredo, Jr., because there are no other fights without beating him. But I will say this, I intend to break Bernard's record, with or without him."

I find this funny because Calzaghe's opposition during his defenses is if possible, actully worse than Hopkins competition.