Comments Thread For: Khan: Brook Fought Out of His Skin. I Wasn't Ready For That, He Was The Much Better Man

[NachoMan]

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Khan and Roy can never be mentioned in the same sentence.
Khan was an attraction like Mayorga or Edison Miranda.
The “blistering” hand speed would never compensate for his weak chin and zero defense. He got destroyed at 135 by Prescott. He got KO’d by Danny Garcia at 140. This was in his prime.
10 years ago, Khan would still have been destroyed by Brook, Crawford and any top WW.

Roy was way past his prime when he started getting beat up BUT his record in boxing him assured him of the Hall of Fame and ATG status. Khan on the other hand is not

Strawman argument. Nobody said Khan was on RJJ's level. The point being made is that Khan, like pretty much every fighter, isn't the same fighter at 35 that he was at 25, so why assail his entire career for a loss at the tail end of it? Of course Khan's not an ATG, but he was a solid fighter and world champion once upon a time. Khan is perhaps most fiercely criticized for his desire to fight Mayweather and Pac, but I've always wondered why some fans were so bothered by that. What are prize fighters supposed to do but seek out the biggest prize and challenge? In his prime Khan was worthy of those challenges but both of those guys, for whatever reason, chose to make lesser fights instead. Not saying Khan would have beaten either, but there is a reason neither of those guys accepted his challenge. As flawed as he was, prime Khan was dangerous.

[archiemoore1]

Anytime u have someone who publicly tells the Heavyweight Champ that he can have his leftovers, meaning his own wife's juice box, some ppl out here expect u to cry tears and feel sympathy because he got his face caved in. Kell tried to break his face the same way he got his own face broken twice. And I'll be damned if he wasn't well on his way to doing that until the ref stopped it and robbed Kell of a clean, classic, all -time great highlight reel knockout. That was only the 6th round, so just imagine how Khan would have looked after the 7th - 12th. Of course, Khan never would have made it that far. Kell beat Khan as if he was an amatuer, and when Kell was in his prime, he would have destroyed Khan. He'a always been an entirely different caliber of fighter than Khan ever was

[Oregonian]

Strawman argument. Nobody said Khan was on RJJ's level. The point being made is that Khan, like pretty much every fighter, isn't the same fighter at 35 that he was at 25, so why assail his entire career for a loss at the tail end of it? Of course Khan's not an ATG, but he was a solid fighter and world champion once upon a time. Khan is perhaps most fiercely criticized for his desire to fight Mayweather and Pac, but I've always wondered why some fans were so bothered by that. What are prize fighters supposed to do but seek out the biggest prize and challenge? In his prime Khan was worthy of those challenges but both of those guys, for whatever reason, chose to make lesser fights instead. Not saying Khan would have beaten either, but there is a reason neither of those guys accepted his challenge. As flawed as he was, prime Khan was dangerous.

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Strawman argument? Really Nachoman?

“… so why assail his entire career for a loss at the tail end of it?”
Khan got destroyed by Prescott in 2008. He was 22 years old. He then got destroyed by Garcia in 2012. He was 25 years old. He got destroyed by Canelo in 2016. He was 30 years old.
Those losses weren’t at the “tail end” of his career. This is how lies get propagated.

“There’s a reason neither guy accepted Khan’s challenge”. Dude! Dafuq are you smoking?
Khan was literally irrelevant at 147 when he was clamoring for those fights. A lot of irrelevant guys called out Manny and Floyd. Khan was doing so while getting beat up.

“In his prime he was worthy of those challenges”?? Talk about strawman argument. When exactly was Khan’s prime? When he got destroyed by Garcia or Prescott or Canelo or was it in between those fights when he was looking great against gatekeepers like Zab, Malignaggi, Barrera etc?

[NachoMan]

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Strawman argument? Really Nachoman?

“… so why assail his entire career for a loss at the tail end of it?”
Khan got destroyed by Prescott in 2008. He was 22 years old. He then got destroyed by Garcia in 2012. He was 25 years old. He got destroyed by Canelo in 2016. He was 30 years old.
Those losses weren’t at the “tail end” of his career. This is how lies get propagated.

“There’s a reason neither guy accepted Khan’s challenge”. Dude! Dafuq are you smoking?
Khan was literally irrelevant at 147 when he was clamoring for those fights. A lot of irrelevant guys called out Manny and Floyd. Khan was doing so while getting beat up.

“In his prime he was worthy of those challenges”?? Talk about strawman argument. When exactly was Khan’s prime? When he got destroyed by Garcia or Prescott or Canelo or was it in between those fights when he was looking great against gatekeepers like Zab, Malignaggi, Barrera etc?

First. You don't know what a strawman argument is, apparently. That comment referenced the fact that the other guy changed the argument to whether or not Khan was on RJJ's level. Of course he is not, but that's not what the argument was about.

Second, you are re-writing history. Khan was anything but irrelevant during the time he was calling out Floyd and Manny. He certainly achieved more at 140lbs than 147, but he never lost a fight at WW until later when he gave up the chase and took on Crawford, and he was still an international star in the sport. He was certainly a bigger draw than many of the guys Floyd and Manny chose to fight instead during that time. Nobody is saying he was undefeated or had either Floyd or Manny's resumes, but he absolutely was regarded by many fans as a threat to both guys during that time. As I mentioned, Floyd himself put it to a vote for his fans and they picked Khan. Disregard facts if you want to.

[Oregonian]

First. You don't know what a strawman argument is, apparently. That comment referenced the fact that the other guy changed the argument to whether or not Khan was on RJJ's level. Of course he is not, but that's not what the argument was about.

Second, you are re-writing history. Khan was anything but irrelevant during the time he was calling out Floyd and Manny. He certainly achieved more at 140lbs than 147, but he never lost a fight at WW until later when he gave up the chase and took on Crawford, and he was still an international star in the sport. He was certainly a bigger draw than many of the guys Floyd and Manny chose to fight instead during that time. Nobody is saying he was undefeated or had either Floyd or Manny's resumes, but he absolutely was regarded by many fans as a threat to both guys during that time. As I mentioned, Floyd himself put it to a vote for his fans and they picked Khan. Disregard facts if you want to.

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“achieved more at 140”?? Dude!! You just don’t get it.

Khans resume at 140:

1. Kotelnik
2. Dmitry Salita
3. Malignaggi
4. Maidana
5. McCloskey
6. Judah
7. Lamont Peterson
8. Danny Garcia
9. Carlos Molina
10. Julio Diaz

He got destroyed by Garcia and got beat by Peterson. So according to you, 8 fights against 5 unknown guys, one gatekeeper and can’t punch Malignaggi is how Khan has “achieved more at 140”?
Maidana was a great win. That’s it.

As for “he never lost at WW prior to Crawford,” argument, you are celebrating wins over Collazo, Devon Alexander and Algieri. Man! You set the bar really low for your guy Khan.

I get that you like him but those three fights is how you think Floyd and Manny ducked him? That’s hilarious

Khan was as much a threat to Floyd or Manny as he was over a shot Brook.
If he was good enough to trouble Floyd then he should have had a great fight vs Crawford.

Stop. Just stop it!

[Richard G]

Khan't fought the way he always has, just a bit slower, speed has been his main asset with not much science. His attack is just a rush with a flurry of punches until he gets tired of punching air then he stops and waits for this opponent's move while he recovers. Breides Prescott exposed him .

In case we forget

[daggum]

First. You don't know what a strawman argument is, apparently. That comment referenced the fact that the other guy changed the argument to whether or not Khan was on RJJ's level. Of course he is not, but that's not what the argument was about.

Second, you are re-writing history. Khan was anything but irrelevant during the time he was calling out Floyd and Manny. He certainly achieved more at 140lbs than 147, but he never lost a fight at WW until later when he gave up the chase and took on Crawford, and he was still an international star in the sport. He was certainly a bigger draw than many of the guys Floyd and Manny chose to fight instead during that time. Nobody is saying he was undefeated or had either Floyd or Manny's resumes, but he absolutely was regarded by many fans as a threat to both guys during that time. As I mentioned, Floyd himself put it to a vote for his fans and they picked Khan. Disregard facts if you want to.

thats called trolling

[BodyBagz]

Con got people to believe he was better than he really was.
He was the 1st Broner, with a markedly worse punch resistance.

Ironically, Maidana played a major part in both of their careers