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    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

    You'd have a lot fewer of these questions if you got in the ring yourself, even just sparring.

    You'll find out though.

    You don't even understand what "weight classes exist for a reason" means. It doesn't mean that fighters should never move up. You move up when it makes sense to for your body. People like you think that height is relevant. Fundora is taller and longer than Daniel Dubois (or Usyk, for that matter). Do you honestly think he'd have a chance because he's "the same size"?

    If he's good enough to beat Canelo, he should have no trouble beating Fundora and Murtazaliev, who are in his current division and less skilled. Doing so would make him the ONLY fighter to become 3 division undisputed in the 4 belt era. Only Inoue has a chance to do the same. Or do you want to argue that Fundora and Murtazaliev are tougher than Canelo?
    He petitioned for the Fundora fight and was granted it. Fundora had to sit out for 8 months because he was ordered by the WBO to fight Bud or be stripped. He was ready to make the fight. Murtazaliev said he'd fight Bud, and Turki said he'd make those fights happen. So why not make those fights and get the Saudi paydays and make the Canelo fight even bigger? You need to answer that question. Because your whole BS depends on Crawford being good enough to beat Canelo, and if he's that good, and Fundora is comparatively trivial, he should have beaten Fundora already in 2024. He wasn't injured, and didn't fight at all. He could finished 2024 the undisputed champ at 154 and been the clearly best fighter in the world instead of Usyk, and been paid millions for making that history. And that would have made the Canelo fight even bigger. IF he's actually good enough to take on the bigger fighters and win...

    If he's not, and he realized that he was lucky to win vs Madrimov, then it should be clear why he's insisting on the big money cash out, and why he won't risk that fight against Fundora and Murtazaliev. He's not confident he can beat either of those guys, let alone both, and if he loses one of those fights, the Canelo payday goes away for good.


    Literally nobody is afraid of Fundora. Without PBC protection Fundora gets KTFO by Murta, Madrimov, Ortiz, Bohachuk and especially Crawford. For the record, it's Canelo that doesn't want to fight Crawford, could it be because Canelo isn't confident he can beat Crawford?

    Other then that, good post.

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      Originally posted by PRvazquez View Post

      You look dumb. Other than Porter 3 out of the 4 you mentioned were washed . Unifying should be easy when you fight Khan and Brook . Let me ask you something? As a serious boxing fan do you take Khan and Brook and post car crash Spence ( who fights like the black Margarito) as Pound for pound best fighters of the era ?
      Blah, Blah, Blah, you said Spence was too much for Crawford and he got popped out AND TO THIS DAY...you still can't forgive Crawford for beating him up.

      Crawford's accomplishments put him in the history books and that's not up for debate, it happened. Learn to live with it.
      Last edited by factsarenice; 01-20-2025, 08:25 PM.

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        Originally posted by Gary Coleman View Post
        When Bud gets knocked out I don't want hear ANY excuses.

        Not 1.
        First Canelo has to stop ducking Crawford, and then you can have an opinion.

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          I’m a huge Canelo fan and all, but am I really that crazy to think Crawford has a chance to win?

          Several things to keep in mind before completely dismissing Crawford’s chances:

          1. Canelo’s hand injury from years ago has led to a decrease in power. You can see this decrease in power vs Ryder, Berlanga, Charlo, and Munguia.

          2. Both Canelo and Crawford walk around 180lbs, Canelo just cuts less weight to fight closer to his walk around weight. Hence, Canelo looking soft in the mid section in both of his 175lb fights. 175 is too close to his regular everyday weight. They’re both 5’8” too. They’re not that far apart. If you want to say Canelo is used to fighting bigger guys than Crawford, and that Crawford will be smaller on fight night than Canelo is used to, fine. But i’m not convinced that Canelo is straight up bigger than Crawford. I think they’re the same size.

          3. Canelo is old too, and has been in more wars and taken harder punches than Crawford has, mainly because Canelo has fought better opponents, bigger opponents, and tougher and more durable opponents. I think that his fights vs GGG, Bivol, and Munguia were all very physically grueling and all took some of Canelo with them. Crawford, even at 37, may still be the fresher fighter of the two. How many physically tough fights has Crawford really been in? While Canelo was fighting the best of the best, between Postol and Porter, Crawford fought nothing but soft touches. It seemed like all of his fights at one point were tune ups for nothing. Fighting Porter, Spence, and Madrimov was Crawford best run since his run at 135lbs.

          I would put money on Crawford, if the odds weren’t as close as they are. I wish Crawford was a heavy underdog, then I would’ve dropped at least $1k on him. But the odds are damn near even. He’s not even that big of an underdog.

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            Originally posted by LarryMerchant'sBottle View Post

            Fighting once a year is part of the problem. Let me ask you. Do you honestly think Bud would want to fight Ginger if the fight would make him the same amount or just a bit more than fighting Fundora??

            I honestly don't think Bud would bother to challenge Ginger if the pay wasn't as great as it is..
            this is a mega fight and should be treated like one! why would bud accept $5-10mil for canelo when canelo will be making $100+ mil... come on now...

            it's a risk and he deserves to get paid the max for the risk!!

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              Originally posted by LarryMerchant'sBottle View Post

              Fighting once a year is part of the problem. Let me ask you. Do you honestly think Bud would want to fight Ginger if the fight would make him the same amount or just a bit more than fighting Fundora??

              I honestly don't think Bud would bother to challenge Ginger if the pay wasn't as great as it is..
              Maybe not, but I'm not sure Canelo would fight anyone if he couldn't pick his opponents

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                Originally posted by factsarenice View Post

                Blah, Blah, Blah, you said Spence was too much for Crawford and he got popped out AND TO THIS DAY...you still can't forgive Crawford for beating him up.

                Crawford's accomplishments put him in the history books and that's not up for debate, it happened. Learn to live with it.
                When did I say Spence was too much for Crawford? I just started posting on here. Why you making **** up homie? Spence was always overrated

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                  Originally posted by PRvazquez View Post

                  When did I say Spence was too much for Crawford? I just started posting on here. Why you making **** up homie? Spence was always overrated
                  Oh, so now you think he's over rated...ok my bad.

                  But that doesn't change the fact that Terrance Crawford's accomplishments put him in the history books and that's not up for debate, it happened.

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                    Originally posted by factsarenice View Post

                    First Canelo has to stop ducking Crawford, and then you can have an opinion.
                    Crawford doesn’t even have that status that anyone is scared of him . Nobody wants a Crawford payday. He doesn’t bring anything to the table except being the undisputed at 135 . And beating Spence post car crash . Canelo is the money . Hence the hate . Crawford can retire. Boxing will not miss him. Hence the difference. Charlo was better than Crawford . And if Crawford can’t go to 168 why was he picking on little guys for the longest???? Hence his status. I’d rather see a De La Hoya come back exhibition. Than see Bud Crawford fight once a year .

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                      Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

                      this is a mega fight and should be treated like one! why would bud accept $5-10mil for canelo when canelo will be making $100+ mil... come on now...

                      it's a risk and he deserves to get paid the max for the risk!!

                      Let me rephrase the question. Do you think Bud would want to fight Ginger at 168 if Ginger wasn't a bonafide star that could generate the type of money he currently generates even though he was a title holder? I don't, I think he'd stay at 154 and try to unify..

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