Is Froch an ATG

[123tyson123]

I voted Hall of fame not ATG

I'd say he's up there with the best of his division so why not. Calzaghes ATG Froch a few levels below

[New England]

I wouldn't consider him an ATG in general.

But he's definitely an ATG Super Middleweight.

He's arguably the greatest SMW ever, for me he has the beat resume there.

i can't see how you'd think that he has a better resume than ward if froch is the best SMW ever. he's not even the best SMW of his era, man. do you really think froch is going to be remembered as the best SMW of this era?

jermain taylor
pascal at the wrong weight class?
[IMG]http://www.***********.com/boxing_images2/Froch_Pascal31.JPG[/IMG]
bute?
glen johnson at the wrong weight, and faded
george groves... twice


i think you're overrating him, bro.

i remember way back when, dan, when you weren't too keen on our carl


froch has been a very entertaining fighter, and a very good fighter. SMW is thin, and he obviously has one of the 10 best resume there. i can't see how you think he's a greater SMW than ward, the greatest SMW of the era.

[New England]

I voted Hall of fame not ATG

I'd say he's up there with the best of his division so why not. Calzaghes ATG Froch a few levels below

calzaghe would have knocked froch all over the ring. that guy was freaking good.

[123tyson123]

calzaghe would have knocked froch all over the ring. that guy was freaking good.

I agree Calzaghe even though I wasnt a huge fan would have gave Froch a lesson. Would have been a great fight though I do think the current Froch or 2012 Froch is better than he was when the calzaghe fight was actually possible.

2015 bring Zaghe back and make it happen!

[IronDanHamza]

i can't see how you'd think that he has a better resume than ward if froch is the best SMW ever. he's not even the best SMW of his era, man. do you really think froch is going to be remembered as the best SMW of this era?

jermain taylor
pascal at the wrong weight class?
[IMG]http://www.***********.com/boxing_images2/Froch_Pascal31.JPG[/IMG]
bute?
glen johnson at the wrong weight, and faded
george groves... twice


i think you're overrating him, bro.

i remember way back when, dan, when you weren't too keen on our carl


froch has been a very entertaining fighter, and a very good fighter. SMW is thin, and he obviously has one of the 10 best resume there. i can't see how you think he's a greater SMW than ward, the greatest SMW of the era.

Well yeah it's definitely him or Ward.

It's a sticky situation IMO because Ward is better and Ward has the best two names but Carl has a lot more depth.

Carla unlucky that the greatest SMW ever other than himself is in the same era as him. That's just bad luck.

Still, Froch resume is without question arguably better.

Some of those guys you named are good wins aswell.

[IronDanHamza]

calzaghe would have knocked froch all over the ring. that guy was freaking good.

I doubt Calzaghe would fight Froch.

And I think that's a 50/50 fight.

[New England]

I doubt Calzaghe would fight Froch.

And I think that's a 50/50 fight.

i'm not usually one for triangle theories. that said, something about the "class" of the fighter can be determined through the triangle theory.


watching kessler - calzaghe, and kessler - froch 1, i can't see how you'd think that.


vegas would have froch as a dog, and for good reason.

[IronDanHamza]

i'm not usually one for triangle theories. that said, something about the "class" of the fighter can be determined through the triangle theory.


watching kessler - calzaghe, and kessler - froch 1, i can't see how you'd think that.


vegas would have froch as a dog, and for good reason.

Well how about Calzaghe-Reid? I thought Reid beat him. If Froch was in there I would have thought Froch would have won that one.

That makes me think it wouldn't be so easy.

All the triangle theory shows me is styles make fights.

[betmen]

Please don't go down this route, you'll look like a fool.

I never claimed any of them were HOF, if I did, please find the quote. Otherwise stop making things up.

WTF, idk because of my english or your reading but This discusion is completely out of hand. i type "HOF resume" meaning Froch resume is in HOF level because of those fighters i mentioned, not the fighters it self are HOF.
but still think he's not HOF level.

Is my sentence right? i google translate it and it come-out allright.

[betmen]

Listen mate, I don't care for all that crap you just wrote and the reason I put in Brian Magee & Brian Reid, is because the guy put in chaps like Eddie Gazo ffs. Eddie Gazo who had taken a loss to Carles Obregon in Obregon's freaking debut. He also mentioned guys like Doug Dewitt, Mark Medal etc.

Brian Magee was as much world champion as they were and was as much WBA champ as Froch is now.

Yeah i mention them but i put them at the bottom level of Hearns good wins and i also said that them is on the same level as direll, groves, magee in froch resume.