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    #11
    They set him up to fall.

    I mean for him to feel good he would have to weigh in at like 170. 6 lbs above the limit.

    Oscar set up the contract to fine Jr. 1 mil per pound so he wouldn't be able to come in over weight.

    If they fought at like 170, Canelo would be good money and so would Jr. But it would be a better fight.

    Canelo is undefeated at Caneloweight. GGG gonna take his head off come September

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      #12
      Was crazy how one sided it was. My guess was canelo was gonna win, but I expected more of a fight from Chavez jr.

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        #13
        Stop your bull****-excuses Jr. You were in great shape, you couldnt throw shots because you were afraid to get countered thats it.

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          #14
          Looks like once again Chavez went out there just for money and out ppl to sleep like in Martinez fight
          Ofc Canôl's bti1ch moves like draining helped.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
            Agreed. Memo and Nacho failed this time, big time. Chavez should be commended for the heart he showed to make it all 12 rounds, because Memo basically put him in the ring completely defenseless. His punches had no snap or power behind them. He had no stamina to throw combinations even when they were there to be thrown. He would have to rest 30 seconds just to throw one combination, then step back and circle away in order to rest his arms again. His eyes looked all red at the weigh in, and his lips looked dry and swollen. His gut was concave.

            So people can talk about Chavez Jr's tactics, but there's nothing you can do when your opponent is full of speed, power, and energy, and is throwing bombs, while you're so depleted that your punches come out so slow and weak that your opponent can just walk through them and answer with a three-piece in the same amount of time it takes you to throw one punch. Chavez actually did find a lot of opportunities to land his nice left hook to the body, but it barely had any impact because he was so depleted. The shot had no explosion behind it like we're used to seeing. It looked like he was pushing his punches because they weren't snapping out like they're supposed to. Canelo was happy to sit along the ropes and let Chavez work because Chavez's punches had nothing on them this time, and he knew Chavez had no stamina this fight either so he knew Chavez wouldn't be able to sustain it.

            Don't get me wrong, Canelo looked spectacular. His footwork is much better than it used to be. I saw him throw combinations while on the move, instead of needing to be planted. That's one of the things that used to separate GGG from Canelo, but it looks like Canelo is learning some of those things. He kept throwing this wicked left jab-hook from his off foot while moving that was similar to the left Kovalev landed against Agnew, that super athletic off balance left that still managed to knock down Agnew. That shot is an example of why Kovalev is special, and I haven't seen many fighters with power who are able to do that. But tonight Canelo was doing some really spectacular stuff like that.

            So Canelo definitely looked great. But, showing snap at 164 is different than at 160, just like 160 is different than 155, just like Canelo's snap and stamina to chase Lara down all night at 155 was totally different than his snap and stamina at 152 against Floyd. Every pound matters at this level of boxing. This was a super middleweight fight not a middleweight fight, and Canelo looked great not having to drain himself to 155. But, we'll see if he looks as big, powerful, and fresh at 160. The point is, as good as Canelo looked, Chavez had nothing to work with from round one. His speed, energy, snap, and power were all left at the scales. I'm shocked he survived. The chin is as good as advertised, and his ability to at least partially deflect a lot of the shots with his hand defense was somewhat underrated. That might be the one thing he benefited from training with Nacho, but physically Memo and the nutritionists completely ****ed up and really gave Chavez zero chance to win this fight, and actually put him in danger because he had no power to defend himself with.

            Well said, even with all the hate and criticisms, and they might be right, i believe jr really wanted to fight but just got nothing to offer, so he decided to just play it safe than get flattened.

            Its disappointing and wouldve been fun if atleast that version against segio martinez showed up. That wasn't a good version either but it wouldve put up a fight.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Tobi.G View Post
              Stop your bull****-excuses Jr. You were in great shape, you couldnt throw shots because you were afraid to get countered thats it.
              He wasn't in great shape. It was obvious he was drained

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                #17
                He got hit early with some big shots (leads and counters) and fought scared. By round 3 his nose was leaking blood and his eye was swollen.

                He didn't try and when he did he wasn't landing.

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                  #18
                  Like I said before anyone who put faith in this clown to win cant really be shocked as he was never any good.

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                    #19
                    Please please stop saying canella fought at his highest weight ever he is a scale fraud fights at 175 fight night all the time so it was no big deal making 164 now instead of fighting guys outweighed by 20 he fought a drained less talented fighter so what golovkin is the fight if he wins he is the new A side with Joshua for as long as they reign

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                      #20
                      A average fighter against a very good fighter who simply wanted to get through to the final bell without being ko'd.

                      Mismatch but even Oscar must have expected more.

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