Comments Thread For: Canelo-Kovalev Deal in Place Should Kovalev Win, Says Manager

[Boxing Logic]

Not sure if being serious...
Nvm. I saw your post above afterwards.

I mean I wish I wasnt serious but this is what Canelo does. 5 years ago it would have been insane to think Canelo would beat GGG. Yet if you look at boxing history books, that's what they say happened. If you can control when and where a fight takes place, the talent gap of the boxers doesn't really matter at this moment in time, because if the weaker of the two is the one deciding when the fight takes place, and that boxer has no sense of legacy or fairness only what will benefit them, then they will make sure the fight doesn't take place at this moment in time when they are weaker and would lose. They will wait for the moment when they can either win, or at least make it so that they can get the win by other means. Wait until the gap closes enough that it's close enough for the ref and judges to bridge the remaining gap and put you on top.

So I wish I wasn't being serious, but Canelo and other boxers this generation have done this before, so why should I think it won't happen again? This era is already clownworld with Canelo "beating" GGG, Floyd getting a decision over Pacquiao with both fighters having barely a scratch on them, Ward knocking out Kovalev, and so on and so forth. Why shouldn't I expect that before the era is over, Tank Davis will have knocked out a 34 year old Lomachenko (featherweights decline way faster than bigger fighters), Canelo will have beaten Gvozdyk or Beterbiev at 175, or Bivol at 168 if they find out through whatever means, maybe consult some sport scientist or something, that Bivol actually can't make 168 healthy at all no matter what he THINKS he can make, Deontay Wilder will have beaten Tyson Fury maybe retire 51-0 like it's some big thing, and so on and so forth.

This era has proven that if the boxing establishment wants the North American star to win every single big fight vs the foreign star, they can pretty much make sure it happens every single time just by controlling when the fights take place, where, and under what drug testing. Control those three factors, you control the outcome of the fight 99% of the time. The talent of the fighters, prime vs prime, is irrelevant.

[Boxing Logic]

i'd estimate that physically Canelo is around 32 himself I've always said I think he'll be over the hill by the time he reaches age 33-34. Especially If he keeps takin on opponents that are much bigger than him naturally.

Canelo is not in 365 drug testing anymore. And either because of that, or regardless of that, he seems to have very good sports scientists. Just like Floyd before him, he seems to have that... special something... to where I could see him still being in peak condition at 36-37 years old.

[whoseyourdaddy]

This fight is a farce! Canelo should be fighting GGG, Derevyanchenko, Andrade, Charlo, etc. There are too many good opponents that are being overlooked and if this fight happens I hope it backfires and the Krusher KOs him. Either Canelo is taking this time to cycle and juice up or Golden Boy is grossly underestimating the Krusher. Kovalev is a better boxer than given credit for and he still has good power

Are you that ******? you contradicted yourself in an effort to diminish Canelo's accomplishment in case of beating Kovalev, by the way, the fight with Derevichenko did not come to fruition because of Haymon advising Chenko not to take the money GBP offered, but GGG offered the same and he took it. so GTFOH blaming Canelo for no guts no nuts Dereviachenko decision.

[Jsmooth9876]

Best part is I don't have to pay $75 to watch it.

PPV blows.

[champion4ever]

No one wants to see that shit! This bitchmade coward needs to fight Golovkin!

[Boxing Logic]

Yes he might be past prime but he'd still pose a real threat against the rest of the champs in the division.

If the same Kovalev from his last fight shows up, you'd think that's true, but that's the only time that Kovalev has showed up in his last like 7 fights or something. So 1/7 is not good odds. Also, I said you'd think that. Until Alvarez, who is also about 35 now and may have gotten old (or old for making weight) overnight, fights one of the other champs, we can't even know that for sure. He did beat Pascal very impressively years ago, so you'd think it proves what you said, but again, that was years ago.

What if Kovalev gasses out, basically all by himself, after 4 rounds vs Canelo, just like he did the first fight vs Alvarez? Then when Canelo lands 1 body shot per round or something, Kovalev gasses out and gets stopped or starts losing every round, are we going to give Canelo credit for "what great body shots, he's completely chopped Kovalev down, what a performance by Canelo," or are we going to tell the truth "Kovalev was clearly better than him, was winning all the early rounds, but because of his age, he gassed very badly and now Canelo is taking advantage of basically a sitting duck. This is the benefit of fighting older fighters and it shows why Canelo picked Kovalev and not the prime champions at this weight."

Of course the propagandists in the sport are going to tell the lie version of what happened, not the truth, as will many of Canelo's fans, unfortunately. And building lies on top of lies is awful for the sport of boxing. That's my concern. Can you at least understand that as a boxing fan?

[markther]

I think Alvaroid stops Foldalev, with body shots.

[TonyGe]

So Clenelo couldn�t make the 5lb jump in weight from 155 to 160 for years now all of a sudden he�s ready to jump 15lbs. ��

Odd isn't it. LOL

[Elvelozpotosino]

There better not be a catchweight, but even if there isn't, people put too much importance on weight as opposed to age. Fighting 37 year old Kovalev is still a way easier fight, at 175, than fighting for example 30 year old GGG at 160. 30 year old GGG would have KO'd 37 year old Kovalev, at 175, with body and head shots, which happens to be what many are predicting Alvarez to do to him now.

Fans should support fighters who fight the best guys in their primes, rather than weight jump to where all the old guys with big names are. I hope Canelo-Kovalev happens, it's a good fight, but let's not pretend he's taking on prime GGG, or prime Dmitry Bivol (whether Bivol was a middleweight or a light heavyweight is not really the point. Obviously the fact he's a light heavyweight would make it even way harder for Canelo, but the point is Canelo has not even fought someone that good at 160 or 154. It's the quality prime guys he's avoiding, regardless of weight, is my point. The weight is secondary).

Then why was GGG fighthing bums vs proving himself? This is 29yr old Canelo doing what you can only fantasy GGG did. Stop hating

[whoseyourdaddy]

Canelo is not in 365 drug testing anymore. And either because of that, or regardless of that, he seems to have very good sports scientists. Just like Floyd before him, he seems to have that... special something... to where I could see him still being in peak condition at 36-37 years old.

WTF are you talking about? and you said you've been serious? VADA is the one conducting the 365-year round testing, and in the contract, according to them (VADA) it is for as long as Canelo fights. GTFOH with you ****** hating ass, if you have facts bring them otherwise you're talking out of your ass as usual.

By the way, Floyd did not have "very sport good scientists" he just had the corrupt USADA and NSAC in his pocket who allowed him to use IV's in his fights, as a matter of fact Floyd always ducked VADA, the same VADA who caught Nelo with traces of clenbuterol.