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Originally posted by travestyny View Post
But he's pointing his finger at the DA also, isn't he?
The question is, is that the right person. What do you think?
(Jeremiah 10:23) 23 I well know, O Jehovah, that man’s way does not belong to him. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.
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Originally posted by OldTerry View Post
There is no "right: person" per se. It is all just politics as usual. Even if the best of people were making the decisions, they would fail.
(Jeremiah 10:23) 23 I well know, O Jehovah, that man’s way does not belong to him. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.
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Originally posted by travestyny View Post
In other words....it's all a part of God's plan?
We can confidently look forward to God’s judgment of those who cruelly cause suffering. The Bible says: “Evildoers themselves will be cut off . . . But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth, and they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.” (Psalm 37:9-11)
My question is what do you think about a judgment that relieves mankind of suffering? Is it cruel, or is it merciful?
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Originally posted by OldTerry View Post
No, it is all part of what happens to people living in a world that is populated by people who have chosen independence from God. The sorry state of humanity in general is the rejection of the idea that only God (creator) is authorized to determine right from wrong. God established that even though it pains him to destroy people, he does take note of cruel people who cause suffering and holds them accountable for their actions. In time, he will end all injustice and suffering. The pattern of God’s past actions establishes that God lovingly warns people before executing judgment. Noah was a preacher of righteousness, but most people ignored him. The Bible says: “They took no note until the flood came and swept them all away.
We can confidently look forward to God’s judgment of those who cruelly cause suffering. The Bible says: “Evildoers themselves will be cut off . . . But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth, and they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.” (Psalm 37:9-11)
My question is what do you think about a judgment that relieves mankind of suffering? Is it cruel, or is it merciful?
The issue I have is.....didn't God see it coming? If God, who is supposedly omniscient and omnipotent, didn't create suffering, there would be no need to discuss whether it's cruel or merciful to relieve mankind of it. Seems to me God had the choice to make a world without sin and chose instead to watch a madhouse on the flatscreen.siablo14 likes this.
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Originally posted by travestyny View Post
A judgement that relieves mankind of suffering can be both cruel and merciful. If the ultimate goal is to relieve mankind of suffering, then I suppose it would be ultimately merciful, no matter what cruelty it takes to relieve the suffering, if that makes sense.
The issue I have is.....didn't God see it coming? If God, who is supposedly omniscient and omnipotent, didn't create suffering, there would be no need to discuss whether it's cruel or merciful to relieve mankind of it. Seems to me God had the choice to make a world without sin and chose instead to watch a madhouse on the flatscreen.
God is not cruel either. His offer of peace and eternal life is extended to everyone, but it is not unconditional. There are righteous requirements you must agree to. There is a reason the Bible says, "become reconciled to God" and not God will reconcile himself to you. God as the Creator of the universe and all things in it has the moral right to decide what is right and what is wrong. God is patient but soon his appointed time to permanently rid the earth of his opposers will be here. When that happens everyone will know it, including the ridiculers and the scoffers.
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Originally posted by OldTerry View PostOf course, God knew of the possibility, but he created his intelligent beings (humans and spirit creatures) with free choice, we are not programmed robots. (James 1:13-15) . . .When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For with evil things God cannot be tried, nor does he himself try anyone. 14 But each one is tried by being drawn out and enticed by his own desire. 15 Then the desire, when it has become fertile, gives birth to sin; in turn sin, when it has been carried out, brings forth death.
God is not cruel either. His offer of peace and eternal life is extended to everyone, but it is not unconditional. There are righteous requirements you must agree to. There is a reason the Bible says, "become reconciled to God" and not God will reconcile himself to you. God as the Creator of the universe and all things in it has the moral right to decide what is right and what is wrong. God is patient but soon his appointed time to permanently rid the earth of his opposers will be here. When that happens everyone will know it, including the ridiculers and the scoffers.
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Originally posted by OldTerry View Post
Even the part about the ridiculers and the scoffers?
Folks don't have the ability choose not to born.
So go elsewhere will that free will talk.
Many more examples of folks not having free will.
God is all-powerful but refuses to use His powers effectively. Ask Him why He will not and see what he says.
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