Comments Thread For: Ward: Beating Golovkin Won’t ‘Catapult’ Me Past Floyd

[WESS]

Wards beat everyone there was/is at SMW. To add anything to his legacy would be pulling a repeat but at LHW.

[MDPopescu]

That didn't stop Andre Dirrell from ducking or that other guy from Bute'ing the entire tournament.

I'm afraid I can't meet the sophistication level of this statement above.

[Godsfly]

after the "eye test" comment i could no longer post bro...............i just can't.

[-PBP-]

Do you agree or disagree that Ward beating Stevenson, Golovkin or Kovalev would do absolutely nothing for his career/legacy due to the fact that they don't "have resumes?"

Good wins now that can become legacy wins in a year

[hhs661]

Pretty much the truth. What will a win over any of those guys really do for him in terms of rankings? GGG as crazy a run as he's having, has yet to have that career defining win. Stevenson and Kovalev somewhat the same.

I do think a win over Kovalev or Stevenson would be more impressive seeing as they've both had a string of nice victories as of late. Especially the Campillo and Dawson ones

[King_]

after the "eye test" comment i could no longer post bro...............i just can't.

Nobody is magically born with an amazing resume bro. I don't think a guy has to have cleaned out his division to be able to somewhat judge/label him as a decent fighter. That's just me, though.

Good wins now that can become legacy wins in a year

I agree and I just can't understand how anyone can say otherwise. And no, I'm not even going as far as to say if he doesn't fight them... it will hurt his career. But mind boggling to think that someone can say those fights wouldn't matter because they don't have resumes of an ATG

[-Kev-]

Are you serious?


And you're saying Ward won't get credit for beating Golovkin, Kovalev or Stevenson due to their lack of resume? Do you also think that beating old, past prime champs with fantastic resumes is better then beating a young lion who hasn't had a chance to develop an ATG resume yet? I.e: Winky Wright is a better win for Quillin then Golovkin would be


So much wrong with this post IMO. Among other things, you're essentially saying Andre Ward will never have the opportunity to be P4P King because his 3 best possible future opponents are not as proven as his 3 best wins. Not sure if serious....

So much wrong with your post, I will just acknowledge it because you was quoted me.

You gave absolutely no argument at all. For example, why did you bold my Rodriguez sentence?

I mean if you want to debate, you need to start one. You can't just go around bolding sentences and saying it's wrong, without saying why or what is your problem with it. Considering your past posts and avatar, I really don't want to get in to a debate with you about Golovkin.

[yoshik]

Won't be...

....beating Golovkin. He'll cut the ring off on you and pin point pick you apart.

[Cutthroat]

What's funny is Ward is a guy that has cleaned out his division. He is THE champion has beaten all of the top contenders, beat the lineal champ in another division and is defending against the best contender that he hasn't fought yet. This is how the sport of boxing is supposed to work. 1 champion defending against the highest ranked contenders.

GGG, Kovalev and Stevenson haven't come close to cleaning out their divisions.

Yet Ward gets criticized and people suck these other guys off so much its become a part of their daily nutritional diet.

Ward is the reigning king at 168. If you want to fight him, put in work and get ranked in that division so you can get your ass kicked on HBO.

Great post. Can you imagine if a guy like Golovkin even had just 1 win over a guy like Kessler or Froch? He'd be hailed as a god.

[King_]

So much wrong with your post, I will just acknowledge it because you was quoted me.

You gave absolutely no argument at all. For example, why did you bold my Rodriguez sentence?

I mean if you want to debate, you need to start one. You can't just go around bolding sentences and saying it's wrong, without saying why or what is your problem with it. Considering your past posts and avatar, I really don't want to get in to a debate with you about Golovkin.

You say that Edwin Rodriguez is as good as Adonis Stevenson, Gennady Golovkin and Sergey Kovalev... That's why I bolded that, I didn't say that was wrong, I asked you if you were serious?

What I think is wrong with your post is that you are saying that a win over Stevenson or Kovalev will do nothing nothing for Wards career, can't propel him in the P4P rankings, and would be essentially meanigless wins due to the fact that they have no resume? Is that not what you're saying? If so, that is absolutely ridiculous to me. You are basically saying that Ward should just retire because there is absolutely no possible fight for him that can increase his legacy, no?

Judging by your original post alone in this thread, I can't even tell if its worth debating with you

Read my other posts in this thread, I am not taking anything away from Ward, at all.